Talk:Magni Bronzebeard

Poor Magni ...
I feel sorry for this guy all his brothers, parents and other ≤släktingar> are dead. And his only child has married his worst enemy.--Anonymous

Yeah, but on the contrary a heir to both Ironforge and Blackrock is a great occasion to reunite all Dwarves under a same leader.-- K )  (talk) 07:38, 17 November 2006 (EST)
 * The BRONZEBEARDS and the DARK IRON? Yeah, that'll work.. O.o -- T inker  er  07:44, 17 November 2006 (EST)
 * What was that ? Do you think I'm stupid enough to say something that polemic without thinking about if before ? I'm sure the jackasses at Blizzard have done it on purpose, despite all that faction splitting crap they sometimes reunite enemies.-- K )  (talk) 07:55, 17 November 2006 (EST)

Its not that much of a stretch. Thorium Brotherhood did split and despite being greedy, don't seem to be do anything really evil. Zarnks 18:59, 16 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Besides, Brann probably isn't dead. Again. And Magni's going to be a grandfather! It could be worse. He could be Tirion Fordring, whose entire circle of friends and family are either dead, undead, or Scarlet Crusade. -- 20:54, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Brann is alive. Magni will probably never see his daughter or grandchild, :p... She's too tied up in dark iron dwarves society.Baggins 21:05, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Relatives
His youngest brother Brann ain't dead, just missing. May Khaz'goroth be with him. --Hefaistus


 * Brann==> Still travelling f(Alleria)
 * Muradin==>Never to be seen again f(Vereesa)
 * Magni==>Faction leader f(Sylvanas)
 * <=>Bronzebeard=Windrunner ^^-- Kirochi (talk) 09:43, 24 September 2006 (EDT)


 * Oh, BTW, Brann is probaly dead after all. He held the Base of Atiesh, he was last seen in Silithus, and the base of Atiesh can be looted on C'thun ...-- K )  (talk) 13:39, 25 November 2006 (EST)

Oh my god ! They killed Muradin !

 * Muradin got killed by Frostmourne. It may be possible to see him in a Ice Crown Glacier instance as an undead. Maybe it will be one of the boss of the Ice Crown Citadel!-Firelord-
 * Right, but not as the boss of Icecrown. This is already held by Arthas, whom I don't suspect would be eager to let Muradin's corpse approach him.-- K )  (talk) 03:35, 23 November 2006 (EST)
 * I know but I was not talking of the Final boss of Icecrown Glacier, I was talking of a lieutenant of Arthas. I know, without a doubt that Arthas will be the lord of Icecrown Citadel... But by thinking to it... I don't think that blizzard will let us kill Arthas. Because, without him, we no longer have ennemy... Or maybe Arthas will send Muradin as he sent Kel'Thuzad! This option may be possible!---Firelord- 12:42, 25 November 2006 (EST)


 * Yes, they will let us kill Arthas. No doubt on that. And the "without him, we no longer have ennemy" argument is dumb; haven't you noticed already that bosses are killable as many times as you want ? No, really, Arthas will be the last boss for a 40-man level 100 raid, Blizzard has been hinting it for years now.-- K )  (talk) 13:39, 25 November 2006 (EST)


 * I said won't have other ennemy to kill. Do you want to kill Arthas, again, and again, and again, and again, and... well, you see what I'm talking about. C'mon! I read a lot about Arthas and his power, he is Arthas and Nerzhul. The one of the most intelligent/powerful being on the earth. He is even planning to kill Elune!!!!! I don't think we could kill him soon... Really... But this is not of the subject. I still think that Muradin have a role somewhere, He could even be join when he was living and fighting in northren by the cavern of time. And I mean, before he met Arthas. You understand?---Firelord- 23:20, 25 November 2006 (EST)


 * No. He's not planning to kill Elune. And I said "level 100", that does not mean soon. How on Earth could Archimonde be possibly less strong than Arthas ? And "before he met Arthas" : no. Muradin was a childhood friend, his trainer.-- K )  (talk) 03:33, 26 November 2006 (EST)


 * If you don't trust me then, tell me how Medivh who was possessed be THE GREAT SARGERAS!!! A TITAN! Could be killed by a bunch of men... Warcraft is sometime a real pain to try to figure out the power of some hero. I mean by exemple, Ragnaros and C'Thun. An elemental lieutenant and AN OLD GOD!!! C'mon, how can a bunch of 40 men, enven if C'Thun was weakened, could kill him... It's just make no sense at all, it would mean, if Arthas is harder than the great old god or an elemental lieutenant by far... He could possibly do awesome and terrible act!--Firelord

Medivh did not have Sargeras's powers, or otherwise he'd already have torn apart Azeroth by the time he woke up from his coma. He was just mind-controlled by Sargeras, the same way the One Ring told Gollum what to do. His magic powers did what can be seen today. And as some guy said, these are not 40 random jerks but level 60 heroes with full epic enchanted gear with tons and tons of experience; it makes sense.-- K )  (talk) 16:17, 26 November 2006 (EST)


 * Well, you are right on that one but I still said that C'Thun which is an old god could not be defeated by 40 "60 level" hero. Still I don't say that your opinion is bad. But "I" just think that Blizzard should be carefull on the ennemies he put in the game. I don't want to see 40 ppl owning an old god with full capacity, or even a Titan, you know what I'm meaning (There are still 3 old god left imprisonned underground with a possible link to the forgotten one from the Spider Kingdom tunnels in Northren. Meaning they would be possible BOSS)... Well, you played at Wc1-2-3 as me? Then I'm saying to Blizzard : Continu on the limit of possible! Even if new ennemies must be created!---Firelord- 21:06, 27 November 2006 (EST)

What about Kil'jaeden? In the long run he's as big of a threat as the Lich King. There's also Azshara and the naga, one of the most powerful non-Legion/Scourge forces on Azeroth. Much of Northrend remains a mystery, so there's plenty of new baddie potential there. And hey, who knows what would exactly happen to the Scourge if the Lich King was killed?

Don't worry. It won't end with Arthas. --Austin P 13:18, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Dwarf King : Combat info
I saw many raid bring down the great Dwarven King! And it will be nice to have some combat info... I'm sure talking to those who downed him or participed in a down. The difficulty of downing the Dwarven King is really vrariable. It only depend on this question: The player in Ironforge from the alliance will help the King, or not? If you don't think that somewhere, on a server, the king was downed by a raid, then watch this : ---Firelord- 23:31, 25 November 2006 (EST)


 * Yes we know. Any faction leader can be brought down by a good PvE/PvP guild.-- K )  (talk) 03:33, 26 November 2006 (EST)

Mountain King
Magni is not a member of the class known as Mountain King. The Alliance Player's Guide for example only discusses his brother Muradin in that light, but never refers to Magni as a mountain king in the same article.Baggins 22:37, 27 December 2006 (EST)

Well considering that Magni is Muradin's brother and Magni is an actual king in a mountain its a pretty good chance hes a Mountain King.


 * sign your posts... Being an actual king, has nothing to do with being a "Mountain King". If he was one it would have been stated. Unless we have actual confirmation that he is an Mountain King it doesn't belong here. As it is the only character confirmed to be a mountain king out of the three brothers is Muradin. Even Brann makes this distinction, and doesn't claim his other brother Magni is one too, and treats it as a special honor his brother Muradin had obtained.Baggins 01:39, 10 April 2007 (EDT)


 * Again, Magni is not a "mountain king" class. He is the king under the mountain, but not a member of the ironforge warrior thanes. The warrior thanes serve magni bronzebeard though.Baggins 03:25, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


 * When attacked by the Horde in Ironforge he uses two of the Mountain King hero unit's three active abilities, Storm Bolt, which is their ranged attack which Hammer of Wrath was modelled after, and Avatar, their ultimate level ten ability. If he's indeed not a Mountain King then he's a damn good mimic. Drasol 22:14, 18 July 2010 (CST)

Honor
Does anyone know the honor that killing one of these world bosses yields?

What level?
For me it says lvl ??, but is it possible to find out? AristonJ (talk) 01:02, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


 * As the article say he is level ??. See: ?? Once level capped, if a mob still appears as a ?? then they are referred to as a "skull type boss". Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 01:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

List of Characters
Any particular reason Magni (nor Mekkatroque for that matter) don't appear in the list of "Major Warcraft characters past and present" box that we have on all other major leaders? Tanooki1432 (talk) 16:42, March 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think because unlike most of the other major leaders, they haven't really done whole lot. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:03, March 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * One extremely important thing Magni did was smith Ashbringer which I believe is enough to justify him being on the list. Mekkatorque, on the other hand, just whines about troggs in his beloved Gnomeregan.AhotahThunderhorn (talk) 18:47, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

2nd Favourite
Despite me loving the whole lets have fun together thing diplomacy with the Council, I miss Magni sorely, after King Wrynn he's my favourite Alliance leader :(

Is he ever coming back? AND WHERE IS HIS PETRIFIED CORPSE SO I CAN PAY HIM HOMAGE!!

Extractum--Paladin-General of Stormwind 21:41, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Removed text
The following sections was removed because speaks of a specific guild's accomplishments that are not necessarily of interest to anyone seeking information on King Magni. It might be more appropriately housed on the guild's webpage.

***Begin removed text*** Raids against the King:

King Magni Bronzebeard was killed for the first time in history of the Argent Dawn server by a raid of 34 people on October 7th, 2007 with combined group of individuals lead by High Warlord Benator from Blackguard of the Glade. The raid consisted of:

At their success, they continued to clear the rest of the Alliance city leaders in the following hour. ***End removed text*** Hark80 02:00, 10 October 2007 (UTC)hark80

Assuming this is before WotLK and Wrynn's return I wouldn't imaginethis would be overtly difficult, considering that all you had to do was kill Bolvar Fordragon/Archbishop Benedictus who were P*SS easy :P as for the rest fot hem... meh.

Extractum-Paladin-General of Stormwind 21:50, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

"During the Third War...
Magni fought alongside Chen Stormstout." Where? Against whom? Any details on this? --Mordecay (talk) 22:07, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Legion
Freeze-frame on the Legion announcement trailer for "Purified Ashbringer" reveals:

"Magni Bronzebeard forged the original Ashbringer. And he can forge it anew to make it stronger than ever."

I wonder if he's coming back this expansion... - Linneris (talk) 18:53, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Chronology
I thought I did that :D

1.The section Against the Dark Irons is basically The Comic which is pre-wotlk. The paragraph starting with "When King Magni's only child, Moira Bronzebeard, went missing" is vanilla stuff so it needs to be before that.

2. Elemental unrest meeting happened before the Shattering (the mentioned tablet is the indicator, Brann had just sent it and is on its way) so it needs to be at the start of it. Putting it in front of "The next day" is out of context here, because the next day is after Magni gave Anduin the mace, not after he attended the meeting. Also, the Unrest attack obviously happened before he was turned to diamond. On second thought, gonna check the tablet in the book. EDIT: Yep, when they appear, they are already in the city.

3. Also the pandaren thing is now mess. Chen visited Ironforge during the Third War. Li Li and Bo visited it during the war against the LK not after the war against the Nightmare. --Mordecay (talk) 20:56, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * 1. The stuff with Moira is also part of his actions against the Dark Irons.
 * 2. He can't have the meeting about the tablet before the tablets are found in Ulduar.
 * 3. Not sure what you mean, since Chen's initial meeting with Magni was already in the Third War section separate from the rest. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 21:20, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

2. The chronology here is that Brann finds the tablet and sends them to Ironforge. Magni then visits Stormwind and says that it is on its way to Ironforge. The novel has then Anduin going to Ironforge and tablets arriving to Ironforge. Also, the next day is messed when the Stormwind visit is added.

All elemental unrest stuff is integrated in bio of other characters so why not Magni's?

3. Yep exactly. So why putting Chen again in the Lich King section when this happened prior? Or maybe I just don't understand the sentence?

Doesn't "The pandaren made a lasting impression on the king, so much so that during the war and the Brewfest, he declared..." make more sense than "When Chen Stormstout traveled to Ironforge during Brewfest, Magni declared..." ? --Mordecay (talk) 21:29, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * If it immediately followed the previous bit about Chen, yes. However, it's several paragraphs down, completely divorced flow-wise from the previous bit about Chen, so it needs to stand alone as an independent clause. However, I suppose there is an edit I could make... -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 22:13, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Chill down, guys Xporc (talk) 21:48, 5 July 2016 (UTC)


 * The "In World of Warcraft" section is about his in-game appearances. Please stop removing stuff from there.
 * Also, you keep correcting the Cataclysm stuff such that it breaks the chronology. The way you keep changing it says that Magni met with the leaders about the disaster and mentioned the tablet, then the tablet was found, then the disasters start. That's pretty obviously backwards. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 16:44, 6 July 2016 (UTC)


 * All in-game appearances are integrated within all character bios so Magni won't be an exception. The meeting didn't happen the day before Magni turned into diamond. THE NEXT DAY is there with different context and you are breaking it. But thinking of it, I will try to find some quests for more references, most notably the finding of the tablets.
 * Okay, the sentence with the tablet should be put first, then the meeting, attack, and then the novel stuff. It's the chronology of the event - First was the meeting, then we learn about the tablet but it was sent before the meeting - Tablets of the Earth (quest) - in which it is delivered to Ironforge. --Mordecay (talk) 17:08, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Earthen?
So obviously Magni is not a normal dwarf anymore. He's made of diamond now. In Fault Lines he states how he 'became one with the earth'. Although I don't know if it is said any more precisely than that, maybe it can be theorised he is in fact an earthen now and should be listed as so (or at least as speculation)? Dajax02 (talk) 10:54, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

7.2.5 - Magni scenario
Is it in? --Mordecay (talk) 19:18, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I've not seen anything to suggest it actually exists beyond unused voice files. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 19:34, 15 June 2017 (UTC)