Talk:Kalecgos

Move to Kalec?
Shouldn't this simply be moved to Kalec? -- Schmidt talk 13:05, 23 Sep 2005 (EDT)

Wow, an old post. Anycase, fullnames are better than nicknames.Baggins 11:21, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Blizzard spent another lore name...
Be ready, in little time Dummy9182 will be a raid boss!!! --N&#39;Nanz 13:34, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


 * WTF?-- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 16:22, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I believe the way the article was phrased said Kalecgos needed to be freed from Kil'jaeden's control to continue on. So it may actualy be a good use of a character. 16:56, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Except he'll probably go mad not long after, and become a boss in WotLK :p... We already know how much they are screwing over the blue dragon's lore...Baggins 16:59, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


 * hush baggins im in denial ;) 17:00, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


 * -- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 22:10, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Dear god why..., first Malygos declares war on everyone, now Kalecgos one of the few hopes for sense in the situation is getting corrupted and possibly killed, Blizzard is building up to something nasty i can tell. Xlel 04:18, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, you've got that backwards. First Kalecgos is controlled (not corrupted), and then Malygos declares war.

If anything I see this as the way of explaining why Malygos declares war on magic users in WotLK. Since Kael'thas is a magic user and is the one who is summoning Kil'jaeden into Azeroth who then enslaves Kalecgos. By the wording in the article it seems we won't kill Kalec in Sunwell and he may play a a bigger part in WotLK either as a enemy or ally. Leviathon 05:39, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm right with you, and as soon as I saw Kalecgos mentions as being controlled by Kil'Jaeden, I had a feeling that it would probably tie in with Malygos' war on the magic users. The Blue Dragonflight had invested some effort in restoring and protecting the sunwell, only to find the magic-addicted sorcerors and magisters of Kael's sect of Blood Elves capturing and enslaving Kalec. I could see why, upon regaining his sanity and seeing these events, he could be quite upset. (There's also the possiblity that Deathwing's involvement with the Netherwing could be a factor...) Suzaku 09:55, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Well the fight on the PTR has you take a portal to a 'demon' like realm where you see the half elf form of Kalec fighting a Dread Lord where you help him kill the Dread Lord for 60 seconds till you are ported out. So it seems possible that Kalec may not actually die and is released when the Dread Lord corrupting him is killed. Leviathon 00:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


 * It may be cool, but if it is what we do, the boss is the Dread Lord, not Kalecgos.-- 00:40, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

That is how it looks since they zerged Kalecs dragon form to 1% and he banished himself and they couldn't kill him. So the Dread Lord named Sathrovarr the Corrupter is the actual kill target of the battle. Basically it seems the purpose is to kill the Dread Lord before it kills his half-elf form. Leviathon 00:46, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh-- 00:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Well its official Kalec does not die and you do redeem him and loot the Dread Lord. http://boards.worldofraids.com/index.php?p=topic&p_id=91512#p91512 Leviathon 03:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Malygos' Heir
Now I see how the dragons that are found in Ahn'Qiraj are said to be the heirs to their respective Aspects but I do not remember that ever being mentioned in the game (even saw how it says presumed). It just seems more likely that in the end for the Blue Dragonflight Kalecgos would be the intended heir (at least now) to Malygos considering how much more involvement in the lore and current events he has had. Also with how Tyrygosa the princess of the flight is his intended mate I can't see why any of the Aspects would want any of their young other than them reproducing while they are alive. Though I have never seen anything on how the Aspects are with reproduction by members of their flight other than themselves. Just something that got me thinking recently. But guess it would be something that may be brought up more with WotLK and the manga later this year. Leviathon 03:46, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * While I agree that the Anh'Qiraj dragons could easily not be the heirs (a point which was gained from extrapolation as it can be assumed that Anachronos contacted dragons with a similar station to his), if Kalec were the heir of Malygos, he would hardly be sent out on field assignment, and would probably show a little more finesse or resistance to the collar that was put on him. Tyrygosa, I think, as "princess" is a more likely candidate. -- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 14:28, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * While Kalec has had more involvement in recent events, and he's certainly had more exposure to players/lore fans, i think these two overstate his true level of importance. The manga seems to imply he was pretty low on the ladder as a youngster of the blue flight. Just another member. So while his storyline is the one weve gotten to see theres still likely other blue dragons out there who may actualy have had a bigger impact on the history of warcraft, possibly tyrygosa, arygos, or some unnamed elder possibly having kept the blue flight intact during Malygos' madness. Unfortunetly their stroies have not been told. 17:19, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I guess Tyrygosa being the heir would make sense due to the princess title and then Kalec being her consort. Don't think it has ever been explained yet how a heir to a Aspect works either so maybe it could go from a male leader to a female leader or vice versa. Maybe a bit more will be explained in that though in the Manga later this year since it focuses on Tyrygosa and maybe even Night of the Dragon. Leviathon 21:33, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Presumably being the heir to an Aspect would mean that they inherit the Aspect's powers and responsibilities when the Aspect dies. -- Dark T Zeratul 04:01, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Most likely. It is also possible that Nozdormu is the only one with an actual Heir, as he knows exactly where, when and how he will die. Then again, the idea of an Heir is probably a sound idea for any of them. Warthok is definetly right about exposure; Note that Anachronos has considerably less "screen time" then Kalec. -- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 19:34, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Consider one more thing... Due to the Nexus War, and Alexstrasza's opposition... Being the Dragon Queen, and the Blue Flight defeated, she herself might well appoint a new Aspect for them. With the exposure he's gotten, and his valiant opposition and involvement in the Sunwell Crises, She might figure that He and Tyrigosa would make a good fit. Artur Lightrage, Sword of A'dal 18:00, 20 November 2008 (PST)

Lookalikes
New to the wiki.. Anyway, anyone know if Kalec's armor exists ingame, for a lookalike? If so, what's it called?Evan821136 (talk) 02:08, 31 May 2008 (UTC)Evan821136

Introduction text
"Though that strength was once used to guard a source of immense power, it has been corrupted by a far more powerful and insidious being, on his way into the world of Azeroth..."

I think that this sentence should be changed or completely removed. The main reason ise, lore-wise, Night of the Dragon comes after the Fury of the Sunwell patch and actually in the book, the events unfolded there are heavily mentioned. So, the lore has progressed since the Sunwell patch with Night of the Dragon and Kalecgos is last seen departing through the Dark Portal to deliver Iridi to Outland, not being still corrupted in the Sunwell. Neltharion (talk) 13:53, 25 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Good point, might as well remove it completely. If you can think of soemthing good to replace it go ahead.-- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 13:56, 25 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Due to the fact that his final act is actually not significant enough to write onto the headline, after half an hour of thinking, all I could do was to remove the last sentence from that paragraph. Anyone who can come up with something epic are welcome to add. Neltharion (talk) 02:30, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. Besides, I have a sneaking suspicion that we haven't heard the last of Kalec.-- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 14:43, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

How to pronounce his name
I have never really understood how to best pronounce this dragon's name. Does the "c" (which I presume has a k-sound) get pronounced? At least I have a hard time pronouncing both the c and the g directly after each other. Personally I think it sounds best as "Kaleschos". I'm not sure if there exist any official sound-file were the name is pronounced in-game, but that would sure easen up the dilemma. Anyone got a clue?--Odolwa (talk) 16:43, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The "c" is sort of silent; you pronounce it as "Ka-leh-gos." -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 19:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Great! =) --WoWWiki-Odolwa (talk) 21:43, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * If that's case, would the "c" still be silent in his nickname, "Kalec"? Tanooki1432 (talk) 19:51, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Wyrmrest Temple
Kalecgos appears on top of Wyrmrest Temple as part of the Quel'Delar quest chain and gives advice to Krasus. Do you guys think he is some kind of advisor for the Wyrmrect Accord now? Additionally, would this appearance be for or after the events of Night of the Dragon? AMBER (RΘCK)  19:24, October 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * Makes sense, given that he probably wouldn't agree with Malygos's crusade against mortals. This would definetly be after Night of the Dragon, as he hated Krasus in that book, and he wouldn't be working with him if that weren't the case. NotD is meant to be set before Wrath anyway. -- Ragestorm  (talk &middot; contr) 19:47, October 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * It seems to me, judging from the dialogue, that Kalec is stepping into a leadership role here. I would figure Malygos is dead by this point, and the only bits we know about Tyri come from the Sunwell Trilogy and her brief appearance in BC. Seeing as he's taking a vested interest in whether or not the sword is remade, either 1)he's filling in for Malygos, guardian of magic and all that, or 2)he's a renegade seeking solace among those he knows would take him in. I'm leaning towards #2 myself, seeing as the rest of the blue dragonflight are mad as hatters - or so it seems from the ones I've killed. (Put up a screenshot from the PTR, BTW.) --Joshmaul (talk) 04:08, November 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * I hope this appearance meanss we'll get to see more of him. I think chances are good, we haven't seen too much of him yet and the relationship between Kalecgos and Tyrigosa as the last blue dragons and have somehow lost their purpose is a good one. Hell, he might even team up with that night elf who has also lost a sense of purpose, but this is a complete guess. Anyway, I'm indulging in complete speculation here, so I'll shut up.[[Image:IconSmall BloodElf Male.gif]] AMBER (RΘCK)  09:46, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

I can confirm, from the latest PTR build, that Kalec is a permanent feature at Wyrmrest Temple, with the title. --Joshmaul (talk) 00:28, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Awesome! That means lots of implications for the lore, and the possibility of future questlines featuring Kalecgos :) [[Image:IconSmall Amberrock.png]] AMBER (ЯΘ&#60;K)  16:50, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Well since Malygos' defeat took place at the launch of WotLK, before the Secrets of Ulduar, would this mean that now, during the time of the Fall of the Lich King, that the Nexus War has concluded and, lore-wise, the Blue Flight is seeing some sense after the defeat of their master? Malygos also has yet to be confirmed dead, which may mean he's recovering. So is the Blue Flight back on our side and being that Kalec was a mortal sympathizer, he was chosen to act as the Ambassador whereas the others would be less tolerant of such a place? Mykael Mourningsun Vae Victis 05:40, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Alexstrasza says, "I will mourn his loss. He was once a guardian, a protector. This day, one of the world's mightiest has fallen." How is that not confirmed that he's dead? -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 07:40, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Well there was nothing done lore-wise prior to his defeat, and the "Heart" that we get is just an item of incredible power. Which then leaves it open for his revival. But regardless, I'm still curious as to how the blue flight will turn out after WotLK. Mykael Mourningsun Vae Victis 22:57, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * "It's not actually Malygos's heart. Rather it's an object of incredible power that Alexstrasza retrieved from his body."
 * Emphasis mine. This reminds me of all the people claiming Illidan survived on the basis that Blizzard didn't explicitly say he was dead until the WotLK manual. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 23:33, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Aspect and Guardian
Noted in Blizzcon 2010 Quests/Lore panel as the new Blue Aspect and Guardian of Magic. -- --Merchant.christopher (talk) 23:07, October 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm wondering, should we name Kalecos as Aspect already? We know he'll become it, but it hasn't been revealed when exactly. (only that it'll be "just in time") Bubba The Crazed (talk) 22:16, 23 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't think that would be appropriate. It would be like labelling Deathwing as deceased/defeated because we know a group of unnamed adventurers will defeat him by the time Cataclysm is up. --Bellocois (talk) 22:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Yet it's posted all over the place. For all we know he won't be Aspect for two or three expansions (unlikely I know, bear with me) However, we do know he will become the Aspect of Magic. How should this be displayed on his page? As 'eventually' or something like that? Bubba The Crazed (talk) 21:59, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It actually says it in the opening paragraph, though I've just rewritten it to more clearly indicate that it's in the future. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 22:15, 27 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Well Azuregos during Azshara questline for Horde players, thinks it's ridiculus that Kalecgos would become a new aspect and I guess he, along with some other Blue Dragons has a strong dislike for him, considering him too young and weak to become a new aspect of magic (a strong fetish for illusionary girls anyone:P?- Yeah I know Anveena turned into a real being later on but still.) 15:39, 6 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Is there any hint at how or why he was chosen above others? There are far older and more experienced dragons that seem more likely, such as Azuregos, to take up the mantle as Aspect of Magic.  I have yet to complete the quest chain in Azshara that deals with Azuregos voicing his opinion of Kalecgos, so I'm not sure if he gave any specific reason of why he though that Kalecgos would potentially be the next Blue Aspect.  Was it just a side comment, like, "I hope Kalecgos is not the next Aspect" or was there something deeper?  Can someone please elaborate on this? JLipps (talk) 21:02, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Metzen said he will be the new Aspect, but it hasn't happened yet in-game. We will probably get more information once that happens. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 05:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Aye.. we'll probably get the storyline about the time the Deathwing raiding instance opens. 06:24, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Spellweaver
Did he inherit the title of Malygos? (talk contribs) 02:52, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * On the PTR he does have the title... --LemonBaby (talk) 08:47, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds pretty conclusive to me, then. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 08:57, 10 November 2011 (UTC)