User talk:Gadgetfingers/Gronn Theory

Thoughts Pleese
I dont know how much of this is new speculation or if any of it is, i just want to share my theory.


 * It is an alright theory, but it cannot be correct, since in rise of the horde the orcs have been fighting the ogres for generations. even the draenei have been fighting against the ogres for quite a long time. (some 200+ years since they arrived on draenor). the ogres also say several times that they hate the gronn, because the gronn abuse them and are like slave-drivers. that is why they joined the orcs, the orcs killed off many of the gronn.
 * i think that the gronn came first, then some evolved(devolved?) into the ogre lords, which continued on to become the ogres. much like the caste system of a hive, the gronn became the ruling class, and when the gronn were so low in number, the ogre lords did. the ogre lords would have had to have been around since long before the fall of draenor, and the gronn likely even longer than that. at least since before durotar's time.--Haddon 15:06, 27 March 2007 (EDT)

It's a pretty interesting theory, but it can't be correct. Saimdusan 23:48, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for looking it over. I have little access to the warcraft books, so thanks for informing me :)

gadget 09:59, 26 September 2007 (UTC) 09:59, 26 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Heh, I like this theory. Despite we are not very certain about what happened previous to the orc-gronn clash, your theory have a lil support there, on that un-complete past. If gronn are like "demigods", perhaps they were on that planet since even the apparition of the first orcs. However, since the main writters of Warcraft did almost nothing to work out the past of the olde "Draenor" (sure it had a name previous to the landing of the draenai), from where these "demigods" came is a big big mistery. If the planet was a lushing world, perhaps previously seeded by the titans (althought there is no proof), the gronn perhaps were the equivalent to the mountain giants, therefore, the ogre-lords and their offspring may had splitted from these "primordial land elementals" (and the fleshy gronn we see nowadays perhaps suffered the same transformation like the dwarves had from their Earthen selves, or are lesser offsprings of more ancient and elemental gronn who are yet to appear on lore or in-game).
 * Interestingly enough, if the ogres built Ogri'la, who knows if (even before the orc's apparition or the massive gronn tyranny and the massive de-evolution of the ogre race) they may had built a more advanced civilization wich ruins are yet to be discovered? It could be a plus for the lore of Warcraft, as I see myself that the poor world of the orcs and ogres is in need of a more deep work, and theories like yours proves that indeed, we want to see more about this world and their original races. Thanks for share your thoughts :) --Ui-charactercreate-races troll-male.png Ravenore, the Necroshadowmancer 05:49, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much. 01:09, 28 January 2008 (UTC) gadget