User talk:Fandyllic/Oct 2006 thru Dec 2006 Archive

= Comments to Fandyllic =

Category Epic Items or Epic items
See, now I'm completely confused. Surely, as per WW:CAT, those cats should be capitalised (Miaow) -- Kirkburn  (talk) 20:40, 29 September 2006 (EDT)


 * Precisely. I reverted the changes.  -- Mikk  (T) 03:57, 30 September 2006 (EDT)


 * Oops, I misread the policy. You might want to fix Category:Rare items and Category:World of Warcraft legendary items also. -- Fandyllic (talk) 5:41 PM PDT 1 Oct 2006


 * They have now been fixed.  -- Mikk  (T) 03:35, 2 October 2006 (EDT)


 * Please also see Category:Factions. We have Faction:The Mithril Order and Factions:Thorium Brotherhood. The first is correct and the second is wrong, based on my understanding of the Cat and Sub-cat guidelines.  --Dracomage 13:45, 5 October 2006 (EDT)


 * Well since your two links are both red (no article), I'm not sure why either is a problem. -- Fandyllic (talk) 10:57 AM PDT 5 Oct 2006


 * Oh wait, you meant [[:Category:Faction:The Mithril Order]] and [[:Category:Factions:Thorium Brotherhood]]. Personally I think these are both wrong... I would prefer just [[:Category:The Mithril Order]] and [[:Category:Thorium Brotherhood]]. I put correct2category tags on them to suggest this naming convention. Is Mithril Order a true reputation tracked faction? Or just an organization by name. -- Fandyllic (talk) 11:06 AM PDT 5 Oct 2006
 * Now that you mention it... The Mithril Order is not a tracked faction in the game, Thorium Brotherhood is (The Mithril Order I think is part of them (not sure about the lore)). Tracked Factions are Argent Dawn, Cenarion Circle, etc...--Dracomage 14:30, 5 October 2006 (EDT)
 * See Faction for list of all tracked factions. The Mithril Order is a group of NPCs, but as player you do not gain reputation with them. --Dracomage 14:36, 5 October 2006 (EDT)


 * Maybe some mention should be made on Mithril Order and Thorium Brotherhood pages that one is a part of the other. -- Fandyllic (talk) 11:37 AM PDT 5 Oct 2006

User:Asdf5678
I've decided to give the user a short (unlisted on the vandal page) 3 day vacation so they can decide whether they want to continue making and deleting ADarkShinobi (he wiped the content twice today, so I've deleted it again, even after I asked why he did it on the talk page). That okay with you? -- Kirkburn  (talk) 00:33, 5 October 2006 (EDT)


 * I guess so. -- Fandyllic (talk) 10:59 AM PDT 5 Oct 2006

Navigational Images
Any idea why the Help:Navigational image don't work? -watchout 11:11, 5 October 2006 (EDT)


 * Because it's totally out of date. That was for MediaWiki 1.4 and we're at 1.7 now >.<  -- Mikk  (T) 11:12, 5 October 2006 (EDT)


 * And do you know how to create those for 1.7 MW? -watchout 12:55, 5 October 2006 (EDT)


 * I've updated the page to the best of my knowledge now.  -- Mikk  (T) 13:40, 5 October 2006 (EDT)


 * Nice work, thanks! -watchout 05:50, 8 October 2006 (EDT)

Help with Lightning's Blade site
Could you please help me to separate the EU and US Lightning's Blade's ? (-.-')

Lightning's_Blade

Need to fix the main Lightning's Blade site, then change titles on both EU and US. The EU one is the one with Raiding progression, etc. While the short one is probably the US one. Either or the US have not fixed their realm page, but anyway the main site could be fixed to make it somewhat easier. :D Thank you. ;) --Vladinator 13:30, 10 October 2006


 * Okay... Lightning's_Blade should not have been a redirect, so I filled in the page with the lore an put a link at the top to Server:Lightning's Blade (which is actually a disambig, but that's okay). I integrated stuff from Server:Lightning's Blade Europe into and redirected to Server:Lightning's Blade Europe. The " Europe" naming convention has been used for most of the other Europe servers. -- Fandyllic (talk) 6 PM PDT 10 Oct 2006

Redirects
Hey :) Just wanted to ask what the reason was to put a redirect on Gyth's Skull of Shadow Resistance? This item alone has 5 suffixes, and is one of the rare ones that doesnt have the 15 other bear/owl etc. I find it a bit heavy to put a redirect on every item suffix :) Only my opinion ofc ;) --Adys 17:29, 12 October 2006 (EDT)


 * Rustak has assured me that size and space of WoWWiki won't be an issue, so I figure why not redirect stuff instead of delete. It still remembers deleted pages anyway. I delete stuff that is legitmately bogus, but some of the things you marked were okay, just not exactly named correctly (no "The" when it should be there) or some variant that there might be too many of ("...of Shadow Resistance"). I could see why some people might be interested in some variant for raid intances that usually require high resistance of one type or another (fire for MC, nature for AQ, etc.). -- Fandyllic (talk) 4:18 PM PDT 12 Oct 2006

What the h*ll? =)
You finally let one of your toons ding 60?! CONGRATULATIONS FANDYLLIC! :-)  -- Mikk  (T) 22:13, 15 October 2006 (EDT)


 * You're worse than my guild mates! I tried so hard not to get to 60, but I did a few too many quests in Winterspring... ;-) -- Fandyllic (talk) 2:02 PM PDT 16 Oct 2006


 * You ... lose?? ;) Congrats -- Kirkburn  (talk) 18:20, 16 October 2006 (EDT)


 * Congrats you Slacker! --Dracomage 14:35, 24 October 2006 (EDT)

Category:Unofficial Servers
Hey, I saw you created Category:Unofficial Servers, just wanted to ask what for :-P All servers are "official" normally, unless you were talking about test servers etc, which are anyways temporary, so not sure its needed. Thanks :-) --Adys 03:47, 21 October 2006 (EDT)


 * Um Adys, I think you're wrong. There are unofficial servers, run only by players. I have tried playing on them once. They are legal and some are very famous all over the world. Unofficial servers are created by players who can edit the very database of the game (say, mess with the fun, sometimes) and change the loot, the creeps, the NPCs, and sometime, if the game masters really kick ass they can add their own things.-- K )  (talk) 04:23, 21 October 2006 (EDT)
 * They're also known as "Private servers".-- K )  (talk) 04:24, 21 October 2006 (EDT)


 * I know them Kirochi, and yeah there are many well known Private Servers, however they are not legal at all, and I doubt WoWWiki is going to have articles about them any time soon. Blizzard barely allows programs like WoWModelViewer and WoWMapViewer to exist, let alone private servers :) --Adys 06:14, 21 October 2006 (EDT)


 * If that's the intention of the Unofficial Servers category, I'd advise against it.  -- Mikk  (T) 06:25, 21 October 2006 (EDT)


 * I just wish to stress that 'unofficial servers' are completely illegal. Blizzard does not allow access to the server software, and the use of it is effectively stealing. In any case, the wiki is not in the habit of attracting Blizzard's ire. -- Kirkburn  (talk) 07:54, 21 October 2006 (EDT)


 * Private servers are illegal in the US. the server software is not stolen, but reverse engineered and emulated, which is illegal under the DMCA, which only exists in the US (though it is possibly illegal under Australian and British law also.  not 100% sure).  in short, it is perfectly legal outside the US, with the possible exception of Australia and Britain.  Though if WowWiki is hosted in the US, i agree that having a page of private servers would be a legal risk. - Chafalcar 18:23, 7 April 2007 (EDT)


 * Okay, I deleted the category. I copied the above conversation to the Category talk:Unofficial Servers. -- Fandyllic (talk) 2:04 PM PDT 23 Oct 2006

New page question
Greetings, I've been noticing a lot of pages that were created with no information at all. It seems that the creator's only intent is adding the stub headers. Is it frowned upon to do such as this? I could see why the author may do this perhaps as it could clear up what some WoW terms are by looking at the category on the blank pages, but is this enough to justify a new page? Sam Weber 21:09, 23 October 2006 (EDT)


 * Please see Zero content Pages (New page Patrol) thread in my talk archive. If you have further concerns or comments, feel free to put them here. -- Fandyllic  (talk) 6:17 PM PDT 23 Oct 2006

Sam Weber in RC patrol
got accepted into the RC patrol, but someone forgot to poke you about patroller permissions, so I'm doing that now :-)  -- Mikk  (T) 03:27, 24 October 2006 (EDT)


 * Done. -- Fandyllic (talk) 8:41 AM PDT 24 Oct 2006

Item pages
Hey Fandyllic :-) I meet many item pages (such as Noboru's Cudgel) using a deprecated item tooltip (mostly stubs expanded by you), the problems with this tooltip appears when there is much text on a line (ie a long Use or Proc description) and also on computers with a low resolution. Problems which dont appear with the Standard Boilerplate. Could you, in the future, use this boilerplate? Thanks :-) --Adys 21:15, 25 October 2006 (EDT)


 * Yeah, I'm kinda lazy about using the boilerplate because it has so much stuff in it. I'll try to use it more in the future. -- Fandyllic (talk) 11:26 AM PDT 26 Oct 2006


 * I putted the name bolding straightly in the template, better than changing every single item I guess =P --Adys 00:30, 29 October 2006 (EDT)

Wikipedia ftw :)
argh! -- Kirkburn  (talk)


 * Who cares. Wikipedia is crammed with stick-up-butts. If they delete their WoWWiki entry, I won't waste time on Wikipedia entry in WoWWiki. It gets the speedydelete. -- Fandyllic (talk) 1:20 PM PDT 27 Oct 2006


 * Lol. Have you seen the notice on my user page btw? -- Kirkburn  (talk) 16:25, 27 October 2006 (EDT)


 * Wikipedia ftl :)....and now it's gone lol, ya know, cause the article space conflicted with so many others... --Gryphon 18:55, 1 November 2006 (EST)


 * I made Wikipedia a redirect to wikipedia. It looks ugly, but we're not as stick-up-the-butt as Wikipedians. -- Fandyllic (talk) 4:21 PM PST 1 Nov 2006

Are you a Burning Crusade &beta;eta tester?
I noticed you've been adding tons of entries for BC items. -- Fandyllic (talk) 8:27 PM PST 30 Oct 2006
 * I got a code stuck to my account yes, and can occasionally lookup stuff. but haven't bothered to download it at home (2gig bit much).

CJ 15:30, 30 October 2006 (EST)
 * Yeah, if you have access to a higher speed connection (university or workplace) that you won't feel guilty about using, you should download it. You could probably download it on a DSL connection over a couple of days over night, since the download should be resumable. I'm not a &beta;eta tester and I'm jealous! I'll still get to see it though, because my brother-in-law is in the beta. -- Fandyllic (talk) 1:20 PM PST 30 Oct 2006

Vandals
Check Known vandals --Gryphon 19:55, 3 November 2006 (EST)


 * I assume there were only 2 recent vandals added to the list. They are blocked per policy. -- Fandyllic (talk) 5:10 PM PST 3 Nov 2006

Check it out
TY for letting others use yor format for your user page check mine out i modified it slightly for my taste but tell me what you think

--Biron

NPC Stubs
I was wondering why you'd added stub tags to such NPCs as Wesley and Darla Harris. What else is there to be said about them? And the NPCs Category is redundant since they are already in subcategories of that one - Stable Masters, Flight Masters etc -- Varghedin 13:56 PM CET 6 Nov 2006
 * Just habit mostly the reason for adding stubs. I'm flaky that way... ;-) As for the adding the NPC category, I sort of think it should be on all NPCs... sometimes you don't know what kind of NPC the person is, so then it makes it hard to find. There is also an argument that it is redundant... which I don't totally disagree with. -- Fandyllic  (talk) 2:02 PM PST 6 Nov 2006
 * Yes, I noticed that you were adding lots of stubs to pages of tameable creatures I filled out. For most of these creatures there is nothing left to add.  It just seems pointless to stub it, because the type of creature, level, location, and color is already listed.  There's nothing left to add except a picture in most cases.  What should be done with these pages?  --Presea 18:03, 6 December 2006 (EST)
 * My threshold for non-stub is probably too high. For it to not be a stub, I usually want to see pictures, stats, any class/profession/quest-related info, special drops, trivia, and maybe related Warcraft lore. Basically, if it's missing any info I might see at other sites, it's a stub to me. I know, that's alot of stuff. -- Fandyllic (talk) 3:59 PM PST 6 Dec 2006
 * Well, then...would a model viewer picture suffice for pages of creatures without a picture? (For creatures that have identical colors and models I could just reuse the same picture again)  Or should it really be in-game screenshot?   Because it bugs me to see stubs on stuff otherwise filled out.  (And remember, if your threshold is too high, you can always adjust it some :P)  --Presea 23:05, 7 December 2006 (EST)

Dude
Look at RC and vandal page and your own talk! --Gryphon 14:00, 7 November 2006 (EST)
 * Update: You got him Jim. --Gryphon 14:15, 7 November 2006 (EST)
 * Yeah, I wasn't paying attention. I forgot to check vandal list. -- Fandyllic (talk) 11:16 AM PST 7 Nov 2006

Isha Awak
Quest:Isha Awak/Chain is a template used by all the quests in the Isha Awak chain. That's why I made it a subpage and didn't stub it. Guess I should've left a note to that effect, huh? :-) --DarkRyder 14:58, 8 November 2006 (EST)


 * Yeah, if you're going to use it as a local template you should make it more obvious. Maybe Quest:Isha Awak/Header or something like that... I thought it was just a guide to the quest chain. -- Fandyllic (talk) 12 PM PST 8 Nov 2006


 * Hmm... actually (now that I've already moved it back 9_9), perhaps "/Chain Template" would be best. I've already gone back and added a description to the template.  --DarkRyder 15:03, 8 November 2006 (EST)


 * Yeah, Quest:Isha Awak/Chain Template or Quest:Isha Awak/ChainTemplate would work (I hate unnecessary spaces). -- Fandyllic (talk) 12:05 PM PST 8 Nov 2006


 * Done and done! Thanks for pointing this out to me.  --DarkRyder 16:16, 8 November 2006 (EST)

Guild stub and dead guilds
Hand of the Forsaken and Low Red Moon have been stubbed because they may be dead guilds. While they basically are dead, I will still contend that the pages have a reason to be up here. Both guilds have been a very important part of the server history (Feathermoon US is the server), and I feel it is important that this history is documented and recorded somewhere. If you need me to make changes to the text (to separate IC and OOC comments, to make it more clear that this is a defunct guild, etc), I'll be happy to do so - but not including this page at all would be, imho, a mistake. Also, I checked the guidelines in the Guild writing pages, and I cannot find any mention there that the featured guild should be an active one. I'm not trying to play rule lawyer here - but if you feel that dead guilds should not be on WoWWiki, then maybe the Guild writing guide should mention that. Thanks for any explanation. -- Tsark 07:55, 9 November 2006 (EST)


 * See response at User talk:Tsark. -- Fandyllic (talk) 10:22 AM PST 9 Nov 2006

green
Enchantment. please dont use "neon" green in soft-tone tables. it looks beyond horrible, and very much out of place. 03:21, 10 November 2006 (EST)


 * I used "green" which looks okay on my FireFox... you must have some strange color settings. So, what is "Note: Enchantments available only in Burning Crusade are marked as green rows " for, if you're not going to color them green? -- Fandyllic (talk) 10:29 AM PST 10 Nov 2006


 * CJ's are a soft green for me in IE7 and FF. Fandyllic's green was the same bright green in both IE7 and FF for me. Might want to check color settings if CJ's doesn't look green to you. --Gryphon 13:42, 10 November 2006 (EST)
 * Edit: I take that back, I accidentally loaded the same page in both IE and FF. Fandyllic is correct that CJ's green does not display in FF, nor does the light grey, only the table headers are grape colored, the rest is black. But I have to agree, that the green Fandy created was burning my retinas ;-D --Gryphon 13:45, 10 November 2006 (EST)
 * Found the reason, colors were missing the hash (#) for the rows. IE makes up for the missing hash, FF is strict. --Gryphon 13:48, 10 November 2006 (EST)
 * ahh, so it's working now? 04:36, 11 November 2006 (EST)


 * Okay, I think the issue is calling it neon green... This is neon green. While this is green . I guess the regular green is a bit too bright, but not neon. The softer green is good, I was just being lazy and picked "green" cuz it was easy. -- Fandyllic (talk) 10:45 AM PST 10 Nov 2006

boilerplate
RFC : Boilerplate:Talent_Tree 05:32, 14 November 2006 (EST)


 * Thanks, I 'll take a look. -- Fandyllic (talk) 10:51 AM PST 14 Nov 2006

pls come into irc
just want to talk with you ´bout my request @ wow-api


 * I can't really offer you any help. I'm not an AddOn developer. Just tell the people on the channel that I referred you. -- Fandyllic (talk) 12:01 PM PST 17 Nov 2006

Hi =)
I joined the community about a week ago and I was wondering if there's any itemization team going on, I see few standards on the way of introducing items into WoWWiki.

Thanks in advance ;) -- 10:49, 19 November 2006


 * There isn't a specific team for adding items to WoWWiki, but the recommended boilerplate is Help:Item articles. You can add &#123;&#123;subst:Boilerplate:Item&#125;&#125; and click Save page, then edit again and fill in the boilerplate. -- Fandyllic (talk) 7:26 PM PST 19 Nov 2006

Furbolg
Argh! Just uploaded a furbolg fanart pic (Image:Furbolg_Warrior.jpg) and noticed it had a copyright on it... could you delete it for me until I get confirmation that wowwiki is allowed to use it? Thanks in advance... --Vorbis 16:10, 25 Nov 2006 (GMT)


 * Looks like you uploaded a placeholder until you get permission. That should be okay for now. No need to delete it. -- Fandyllic (talk) 9:38 AM PST 26 Nov 2006

Bot Marker Please
Could you please make Hobinbot a listed bot? --Hobinheim 22:32, 25 November 2006 (EST)


 * Tell me what it does and I'll give it the rights. -- Fandyllic (talk) 9:36 AM PST 26 Nov 2006


 * Well, me and bullet were talking in village pump about how we tend to make lots of similar edits to things, like one of this projects where he was upgrading the bare images on NPC pages to framed ones. So both of us wrote bots for it, but realized our bots were clogging up the recent changes page. Me personally, my bot does not have any single purpose. It does whatever repetitive task I give it for whatever project I'm working on. Usually adding in templates across many pages or something like bullet's project. It's more semi-automatic than anything, since I sit there and approve each change it's about to make. If I'm feeling good about how some samples turn out, I'll run it "fully automatic" and let it just approve its own changes. Clogging up Recent Changes was our main concern. Thanks. --Hobinheim 17:29, 27 November 2006 (EST)


 * Good enough for me. Hobinbot is now part of the Bots group. -- Fandyllic (talk) 3:11 PM PST 27 Nov 2006

Re: Thanks for cleaning vandalism
No problem, I've dealt with these idiots many times before on the English Wikipedia. Thanks for inducting me into the Cleaners Club by the way :). APʘLLʘ (ZEUS)  04:52, 11 December 2006 (EST)

WC3 Maps use in tournaments really lore?

 * Its not fanfiction if it comes from an officially released blizzard source is it not? Those quotes are actually the phrases used by blizzard from the TFT and Reign of Chaos maps in the game itself, in maps they made, and released with the game.


 * They do not come from any fan maps whatosever. On blizzard's website they actually have two seperate links one for official maps, and another one for "mod" maps(mod maps are fan made rather than blizzard made).Baggins 22:15, 12 December 2006 (EST)


 * BTW, did you know alot of places visited in World of Warcraft are actually based off of areas first seen in multiplayer maps in WC3/TFT? -- Baggins 20:21, 12 December 2006


 * Okay, I knew there were maps included in the various WC3 games, but it would be nice if there was a list somewhere on the web to cite without having to go back and fire up the game to make sure the descriptions are accurate. I know that Blizzard sometimes takes fan maps and integrates them into the game with changes in patches. Also, I'm not sure that appearing in a WC3 map makes it canon lore. Alot of the stuff is just plain silly. -- Fandyllic (talk) 12:12 PM PST 13 Dec 2006


 * Well, that is literally the point of the WC3 template, it points out that Blizzard wrote lore for those maps, and that they may not be found in any other source. Its to remain NPOV, neither stating it is canon or non-canon. That isn't the job of a wikipedia. Pretty much the same view way we are taking for the RPG as well. BTW, I can guerentee if I created the topic, I was quoting/paraphrasing from the game itself for most of the articles, or from blizzard's "official map" website.


 * I won't touch the Blizzard "mod" website(as that is definitely fanfiction). As for the "fan mods" that made it into Frozen Throne, those were from a sweepstakes where Blizzard allowed fan designers to create maps for the game, and the winners would be further edited by Blizzard's staff to become "official maps" in the expansion pack.Baggins 13:05, 15 December 2006 (EST)

Quest Templates
I'd rather we don't use any inline quest templates that link to external sites. I don't have anything against external links, and I think they're great when they're in the actual quest article. But for the sake of making our own quest pages better, I'd shy away from the AK/Thottbot stuff. But that's just me. For an example of what I'm talking about, check out my user page's testing section.--Hobinheim 14:23, 14 December 2006 (EST)


 * I understand your reluctance, but until we have a bigger team of people filling out quests, I'd like the opportunity to easily add external links while adding a template. It is alot easier to add quest info if you have a link to the base info at hand. That's my perspective at least. -- Fandyllic (talk) 11:30 AM PST 14 Dec 2006

Thanks for fixing the formatting!
I spent hours trying to figure out what was wrong with our Server:Scarlet_Crusade_Progression page and couldn't get it fixed. Big thanks for taking care of it! -- 22:20, 15 December 2006


 * I think it was unclosed &lt;div&gt; tags, but I'm not sure myself. I figured I'd try to fix it while I was moving them around... ;-) -- Fandyllic (talk) 12:17 AM PST 16 Dec 2006

And on your right you can see the IRC channel...
You are cordially invited to partake in a quick IRC chat on irc.freenode.net, #wowwiki when you have a mo. I've got a suggestion to make. :) -- Kirkburn  (talk) 10:03, 18 December 2006 (EST)


 * K, now you're _needed_ for a chat - I have a list of admins I wish to invite. Had a chat with Mikk and a few of them. Hope you can join us soon! -- Kirkburn  (talk) 13:31, 21 December 2006 (EST)


 * Okay, we talked. Now look what happened! We have admins crawling all over the place! ;-) -- Fandyllic (talk) 10:08 PM PST 21 Dec 2006


 * /me drowns in the sea of admins. Aaaaah! -- Kirkburn  (talk) 06:05, 22 December 2006 (EST)

I Want To Help You
Hello, Fandyllic. I am an admin on English Wikipedia, and I have been noticing the mass vandalism this wiki often experiences. As a veteran adminsitrator, I was hoping I could help you out. I often deal with blocking vandals and deleting vanmdalism on Wikipedia, and perhaps I could do the same here. Also, I could introduce a feature we have at Wikipedia, that you would certainly find useful. This feature prevents new users from creating usernames similar to an existing user (I see that many vandals here impersonate admins). I feel that if I was an admin on this wiki, I could help you out immensely. I'm online frequently, and would do my best to resolve all of your vandalism issues. In addition to Wikipedia, I am an admin or bureaucrat on five other wikis. I have tremendous experience in dealing with vandals. If I can help you out, let me know. Thanks, --Lucky 6.9 18:17, 22 December 2006 (EST)


 * Thanks for the offer. We just added a bunch of new admins, so I'm not sure we need more right away, but I'll keep you in mind. Our vandalism problem is not really that bad. We have the occasional maniac, but for the most part its pretty low intensity.
 * No offense, but experience with other wikis is only one of the criteria I would use for assigning someone as a new admin. If you gain the trust of a couple other admins, they will recommend you and it will probably just happen, since I trust them.
 * In the mean time, hopefully you enjoy WoWWiki, get some good stuff out of it, and hopefully contribute. -- Fandyllic  (talk) 5:15 PM PST 22 Dec 2006
 * NOTE: Lucky 6.9 turned out to be a vandal (see Wowpedia:Known vandals). Hopefully none of what was said above is true, otherwise Wikipedia needs some serious help. -- Fandyllic (talk) 5:06 PM PST 23 Dec 2006


 * The real Lucky 6.9 responds wikipedia:User talk:Kirkburn :) -- Kirkburn  (talk) 20:44, 23 December 2006 (EST)

Cats in a Cats
But aren't all high elves by definition humanoids? --Hobinheim 21:56, 23 December 2006 (EST)
 * Well, there are some strange exceptions... mostly with undead who are classified as humanoids. Basically, I like to see the creature types for any mobs that aren't interactive NPCs. I know its sort of arbitrary. -- Fandyllic (talk) 7:02 PM PST 23 Dec 2006

Classes Category
I've expanded it to include official classes from the RPG, and Strategy Game a few weeks ago.Baggins 22:04, 28 December 2006 (EST)


 * See reply at Classes Category section of Baggins . -- Fandyllic (talk) 11:41 AM PST 29 Dec 2006

News dealings
Your thoughts, please! :) Category talk:News -- Kirkburn  (talk) 14:55, 29 December 2006 (EST)


 * See my reply at Category talk:News. -- Fandyllic (talk) 4:23 PM PST 29 Dec 2006


 * Obviously I'm not going and deleting everything, just the articles that aren't of interest now (e.g. annoucement of a contest) -- 18:07, 31 December 2006 (EST)


 * Sounds good. You could probably delete most things... -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 5:54 PM PST 31 Dec 2006


 * I'm done a large number now, the rest are 'more interesting' articles, but it can be cut down further :) Stuff like major annoucements and interviews, those are great to keep :) Once it's manageable it might actually be navigable and usable by others! -- 21:01, 31 December 2006 (EST)

Community team suggestion
Check out Wowpedia talk:Community teams please! -- Kirkburn  (talk) 18:50, 30 December 2006 (EST)