Talk:Patch 2.4.0

2.4 Patch Released
This Just In !!!! 2.4 Patch released in US Retail Today March 25, 2008 !!!!


 * Woot! (I don't like the face of Kil on the patch wallpaper - it seems it turned more "devil" and less eredar, curious) Ui-charactercreate-races troll-male.png Ravenore, the Necroshadowmancer 14:52, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Fury of the Sunwell
On the page about the arena tournament here it says that the tounament will begin after the release of The fury of the Sunwell (on the part about Arena Combat). will this be the name of the patch? 20.2.08


 * Would seem likely. Leviathon 02:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Gold from all bosses
I see my note about more gold dropping from all 25-player raid bosses was deleted, my source was this post by Eyonix: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311114261&postId=43106576607&sid=1#0

''We have a few changes planned for patch 2.4 that we'd like to share a little bit with you. First, all 25-player raid bosses will drop more gold and those who dropped set tokens will drop one additional token. Additionally, the the loot dropped by Doomlord Kazzak and Doomwalker has been changed to bind-on-equip. These two outdoor raid bosses will also drop much more gold than before as well.

Lastly, Scale of the Sands reputation will now be awarded in Hyjal at a much higher.''

I'm just wondering how you get it to the point where it only says that the outdoor bosses will drop more gold. -- 06:59, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Already fixed :P -- 06:59, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Kalecgos
At WoWinsider, it says: "Kil'jaeden will feature in the 25-man instance, and Kaplan says it'll be a fight on par with Illidan. Other bosses in the 25 man: A pit lord named Brutalicus, the blue dragon aspect Kalecgos himself (who is enslaved under Kil'jaeden), a Fel Dragon (!), female Eredar twins, and a Dark Naaru (!!)" Ohm... blue dragon aspect Kalecgos? I don't understand it... -- Shaera 17:09, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, I get it now. Kalecgos will be in Patch 2.4.0, and the blue dragon aspest Malygos will be in WotLK. Tricky. -- Shaera 13:01, 25 December 2007 (UTC)


 * What? A fight on par with Illidan? Do you mean we will fight two bosses at the same time? Now I'm confused...
 * By the way, if Kalecgos is around, and I had the pleasure to stomp on Darkhan's skull, do we will be able to see Anvena or at least her ilussion? I wonder how the model for the Sunwell will be... As one of the most powerful sources of power in Azeroth, hope they do a good job (and not like the weird sand-clock devices back at CoT - wich are far from "amusing"...). Heh, now I'm thrilled. I want to play this patch as soon as I see the test servers up with it /joy Ui-charactercreate-races troll-male.png Ravenore, the Necroshadowmancer 18:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)


 * No, it just means that the KJ fight will be roughly as difficult as the Illidan fight. -- 18:55, 30 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh, oh, wait. Now I remember some words of the A'dal event back in Shattrah, when Kael'thas yells something like this:
 * Kael'thas Sunstrider yells: And there is nothing you or that fool, Illidan, can do to stop me! You have both served me in your own right - unwittingly.
 * May that mean Kael'thas will fight Illidan, since Illidan is like "fleeing" from the wrath of Kil'Jaeden, and Illidan will fight back? I can even link that with the fact of the next crusade against the Lich King, and Illidan trying to get "revenge" by perhaps "toying" around with the factions in order to try to get to the Frozen Throne without being thrashed by Alliance and Horde alike. Just expeculating, of course. I'm very thrilled about the next lore events. PS: sorry about my signature. I have terribly problems trying to preserve the icon of the troll and my name linking to my user page :(  Ui-charactercreate-races troll-male.png Ravenore, the Necroshadowmancer 19:12, 30 December 2007 (UTC)


 * There's nothing lore-wise to indicate that Illidan did not die when we finished him off in BT, as opposed to the Kael event in Shat or the Kel'Thuzad quest text at Light's Hope. You're reading too much into this. -- k _d3 19:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh, yeah, I guess I must to live with the thorn of see key characters disappear without trace and without fullfilling revenges or leaving next challenges for players. Speaking about this, I wonder if we will kill Kil'Jaeden aswell, leaving nothing than Ner'zhul in order to stomp on Sargera's plans. Err... Whatever, I feel very shakked by this constant sweeping of characters... Illidan could had the chance to redeem himself if he choosed better allies. Nothing else to say. PS:Seems the signature glitch is fixed now.--Ui-charactercreate-races troll-male.png Ravenore Necroshadowmancer 19:33, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * My only problem was, that Kalec is not the blue dragon aspect :)


 * Kalecgos is a blue dragon from The Sunwell Trilogy. I wont go much into the story but, in the end he vows to defend the sunwell which accounts for his presence.  Oddjob  22:00 29 Jan 2008 (PST)

I'd love to hear about it
Now, if this is supposed to be for BC what Naxx was for the original, there may be a lot more coming in, such as a huge event (similar to the scourge invasion right before Naxx), not to mention a short story or something. I'm not say there's going to be, but I'd love to hear about it if anyone finds anything out. Meneldir


 * You'll find out the same time we will. When Blizz releases more information on the forums or we get the patch notes as 2.4 hits the PTR. It's all a waiting game until then. -- 04:13, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Patch 2.4.0 Notes from WoW-Europe
New notes recently spawned on the WoW-Europe Forum. Have added them. Suzanne 20:34, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Awesome. If you see any other excerpts using the official wording instead of the summaries we've gotten from the American posters, please update the text. -- k _d3 21:03, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm somewhat baffled here
Unless someone has an inside lead I don't know about or this stuff is extractable from the MPQ file somehow...how in the world are all the maps and loading screens being posted? I'm a simple man, easily confused - oh, Lord, I'm gonna be paying for that comment later...anyway, just want to un-confuse myself as there's still no way inside the PTR. Yet. --Joshmaul 22:07, 9 February 2008 (UTC)


 * We've got the client. Anything you see posted has been pulled from the MPQs. -- k _d3 22:22, 9 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm...truthfully I only check the MPQs for the music files. I'll take a more thorough look, then. Sorry for the annoyed attitude - as I said, I'm an easily confused man. Thank you, KD. :) --Joshmaul 00:53, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Everything's there. Trust me. --  Shandris   talk / contribs  09:48, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Speaking of things pulled from the data files, has anyone seen the Frostlord model? An impressive icy version of the elemental lords we know and love; Murmur, Ragnaros, and Thunderaan; but with a head reminiscent of Frostmourne itself. A nice little WotLK preview along with the Tuskarr model, eh? NYET! 21:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

The Tenth of February
The article lists today, February 10th as the date of patch 2.40, that is wrong. I logged in today and didn't have to download anything. It also said in 2.4, Mu'ru would be gone and the magisters would be dazed, which I'm in Silvermoon right now looking at M'uru standing (well floating) right in front of me. And lastly, today's Sunday, aren't all the patches on Tuesday?  Mr.X8  Talk Contribs  17:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

They meant the ptr not the official 2.4--Gurluas 17:46, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh  Mr.X8  Talk Contribs  17:55, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Dont suppose we know when it actually hits the live realms? Necroticon 12:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Soon 19:55, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * hehe, that's all well and good, but I dont suppose anyone's got a useful answer to my question? :p Necroticon 07:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Soon is the only answer we have, it's the only answer Blizz has. -- k _d3 07:36, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


 * If I had to make a guess - sometime between late March and early May. Very likely sometime in April; if it works the same way Naxx-to-BC did, it'll be 7 months between Sunwell and WotLK. Of course, this is just my opinion, I could be wrong. --Joshmaul 04:41, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Only thing we know for certain, is that the patch will come the first tuesday right before June, due to the summer festival that takes place, and new content being added with 2.4 for that festival. 20:49, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Druid Set Bonuses
I have an update about the set bonus. Instead of Healing Touch for the bonus, they're using the old Stormrage set bonus (-.2 casting time for Regrowth ). - Falesa

Kael's status
Ok im new at this, i dont how to post, anyway sry. Ok since Kael is in Magisters Terrace, Who is in TK? i mean if Kael (dead) is NOW (present) in Magisters Terrace, then it means that Kael (Alive) in Tempest Keep (Past) should be in Caverns of time, am i right? if i am, can someone link me an article about it?


 * The events on the Isle of Quel'Danas take place after the events in TK, much in the same way that events on Azuremyst Isle and Bloodmyst Isle take place before regular events on the mainland of Kalimdor.
 * It's a matter of suspension of disbelief necessary for some gameplay to work like it does. Thus, Lady Katrana Prestor still stands next to Highlord Bolvar in Stormwind at the same time that hangs from the front gates.
 * As per the talk page thing, take a look at the two links provided above the editbox for talk pages: The introduction and guidelines. Additionally, if this is your first time using a MediaWiki wiki, glancing over the editing help article may be useful. -- k _d3 17:50, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks alot but, i mean blizzard wont cancel Tk, and Kael Dead is in Terrace, how can 2 forms (present and past) be in the present, unless TK will get transfered to CoT... or will it just be time difference and upon entering the island some time passed since Tk?


 * It's going to be the "some time has passed" thing. Kael will still be active in TK, much like Nef is still active in BWL even though several NPCs mention "his failure back on Azeroth". Take a look at some of the quotes and quest text on the Isle. Drill Sergeant Bahduum is a prime example. Don't forget to sign your posts on talk pages with 4 tildes . -- k _d3 18:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

A better question might be: How can he be the boss of two different instances? No one else shows up in the same form in multiple places (you only kill Onyxia in her lair, not in the throne room, for instance, and you don't talk to her for quests in her lair). I can certainly see Blizzard making him escape in the TK fight instead of dying (and leaving his loot behind), or having him raised from the dead... --Bobson 19:54, 20 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Kael does escape. He has since they added the quest reward. Go watch the event that happens next to A'dal when someone turns in a . It's on the quest page. -- k _d3 20:21, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah! Now it makes perfect sense. Thanks --Bobson 04:36, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Factual correction on drinking benefits
The benefits from water have been corrected outside arena, I don't know how to edit wiki pages but here is the source. World of Warcraft Forums --Monk3yguy 12:24, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Arcanite Bar with no cooldown?
As an Alchamist getting some of my g from daily transmutes, does this (unofficially documented) mean the AH will be spammed with Arcanite bars, effectively lowering the price to a meager gold? =( HellRaiser6499 19:15, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you seriously get that much gold for arcanite bars anyway? They aren't exactly in high demand anymore. -- Dark T Zeratul 19:21, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I get 15g a day from them. There can be 5-10 bars cheaper than mine, and mine still gets bought. *shrugs* HellRaiser6499 19:43, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm seeing this as a nerf for mid-level alchemists (before they learn Primal transmutes). They might not be as in high demand as pre-BC, but they are needed by Paladins (A Gesture of Commitment/Collection of Goods) and Warlocks (Arcanite) for their epic mounts; and as such seem to be willing to pay good gold for them. Wigs 07:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Not a nerf, just a realization that Paladins and Warlocks are having a hard time obtaining these needed transmutes as its more likely people want to do mights or tranmutes to fire 16:39, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

World Changes
Should there be pages to detail changes to the existing world? Changes would include things like the two dailies in Hellfire Peninsula where Kazzak spawns; among various other changes. Maybe stuff like this is better held off until the patch goes live, I don't know. I'm relatively new to wikia workings. NYET! 01:17, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You can put things like that on the "Undocumented changes" page, which is linked at the top of the article. We generally try to keep the actual "Patch x.y.z" page as close to the official patch notes as reasonable. -- k _d3 01:36, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

More specific information on Spirit-Based Mana Regeneration?
Has anyone seen or figured out any numbers yet for the spirit-based mana regen being based on int? --Azaram 04:11, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The EJ forums are usually a good place to start. Spirit too. -- k _d3 05:16, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Warlock Life Tap Reversion
As of March 5th, lifetap has been reverted to it's 2.3 values. Changes made accordingly on article page. Life tap change removed from the official notes on the WoW website.

Memoriam
Blizzard has dedicated 2.4 in memory of the passing of Gary Gygax. http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html Leviathon 01:20, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * A very fitting tribute in my opinion. Call me a heretic and burn me for being a heathen, but I actually never heard of Gary before he passed away, which is quite sad. Nonetheless, it's still obvious to me that he has made an incredible impact on the world of RPGs. I hope that Blizzard are considering to leave an NPC in his honour, or maybe even make one of the statues on the Memoriam of the Fallen that the Shattered Sun Offensive builds when you've retaken the island resemble him. --Throrion 00:51, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Stack attack
"[Gift of Arthas] now stacks to 20." I realize this is the official wording, but it isn't real clear. The POTIONS stack to 20 instead of 5 now, not the debuff. --Azaram 01:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


 * It's an elixir, which is why they're fixing it to stack to 20... though I wish potions would stack higher. 01:35, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Same thing. The bottle that the liquid is in now comes in 20 packs. --Azaram 03:02, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

i can download it
When i wanted to go on Wow the orange text apeared to download something i clicked okay and i was suprised because it says patch 2.3 - 2.4. i have a picture but dunno how to upload it. so how can i upload a pic? i can't play though, still downloading :)
 * That's because it's the Background Downloader. This patch is huge, so the more information they get out ahead of time, the better. We've still got at least a few weeks left before this patch goes live. -- k _d3 18:41, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Blizzard does this once they've finalized a certain amount of data on big patches - in this case, as it's the first patch and rather large, it's probably model and area files for the Sunwell island, instance and raid. However, this does mean the patch is closer than a lot of people originally believed as Blizzard usually doesn't start the background downloader until two or three weeks before the patch hits the live servers. --Scieran 19:41, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

No Multi-shot change?
When it was on the PTR, Multi-shot had been changed so it wouldn't hit targets that were cc'd with damage-breakable cc's as the secondary targets, greatly improving the usability of multi. Yet it's not in the actual patch notes. Anyone have any clue as to what happened between PTR and now? Since it was one of the only non-bugfixes in there, and it really helped an ability that is otherwise extremely risky, I was rather looking forward to it. --Variatas 16:16, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It got pulled in the build that went live. There's blizz confirmation in the PTR forum... not that I can get the forums to load right now. See this edit where my aux account updated the article to match the website. -- k _d3 16:28, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I found out the hard way that swipe breaks CC too... --Azaram 01:57, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Jewelcrafting kitbash
Anybody know what the new green -> blue jewelcrafting recipe is? What gems, and what it turns into, a cooldown, etc? I haven't seen it and I'm too tired to be able to figure out how to search. :-p--Azaram 11:16, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The new design takes three of each green gem (azure moonstone, blood garnet, shadow draenite, golden draenite, flame spessarite, deep peridot) and combines them into a random blue gem, with a twelve-hour cooldown. See Brilliant Glass. -- Dark T Zeratul 12:51, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

2.4.1 live
I just got 2.4.1 downloaded

It has some small fixes (bugs and Mac lock up fixes). Antmusic 15:45, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay, who are the dunces at Blizzard who decided that the nightsaber footprint "bug" was such a problem? How many people would even notice and, more importantly, who would even care? Felindre


 * This isn't a forum for whining, especially when completely unjustified. 07:52, 15 July 2008 (UTC)