Talk:List of pop culture references in Warcraft

Diablo
Being as old as I am I'm the only one who notices this, but the Zombie/undead death noises are in fact largely direct lifts from the zombie death noises of the original Diablo. --Revrant 14:36, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I was going to suggest that the Ghoul death noises sound remarkably like the Hamburglar character from the old McDonald's commercials. But maybe it's just me. --Tombstone1881 (talk) 08:37, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Dune
The "Fumping" Quest chain in Terrokkar is a reference to the movie/Book Dune. The Fumper, is a rename of the "thumper" and the final quest rewards reference the three main characters. The final giant worm is Hai'shulud, a mishmash of Shai-Halud, the name used for the worms as well.

So I'm wondering
I noticed Deathguard Dillinger yesterday when leveling up my Warlock Alt, and am unsure as to what category I can throw a reference to the bank robber/band up in...
 * There's usually an "other" section where real people can be listed.--ClemSnide (talk) 05:28, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Why I moved it
I started this article on Wikipedia, and they want to remove it now. Considering how the vote is going, I think it will be removed soon. So I moved it here to save it from total deletion. Elüna 08:07, 10 November 2006 (EST)

Alizee
I feel this video should be added to the Alizee reference bit, for comparative purposes. That, and she's hot. But that's just a bonus, right? McFlynnTHM 16:33, 15 November 2006 (EST)

Really?
"A final quest in Stranglethorn Vale in a long line of killquests is called 'Big Game Hunter', a reference to a StarCraft multiplayer map called 'Big Game Hunters'. "

The quest name is appropriate to the quest, I'm not sure this really has to do with a starcraft map, unless there is some very similar features. Although, I have not played this starcraft map, so I will not remove it. PsychoMedic 17:20, 11 December 2006 (EST)

BE Female dance
I just made an account to say that i dont see how the blood elf female dance is in any way related to Britany Spears' Toxicvideo because that video barely has any choreography to begin with. I can see more resembalance between it and some michael jackson moves (mainly the thriller 'claws' gesture and the rolling of the invisible hat onto his/her head). The twirling seems to allude to a japanese cartoon which I've forgotten the name of, but either way there is nothing that relates between that dance and that from Toxic


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=066_q4DIeqk It's about 2:15 into the video. -- Robot Chicken (talk) 23:02, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


 * That doesn't prove anything, because it's not something from Britney Spears' videos; it's just using the song. Spears never used this dance. If you don't believe me, find an actual video where she does. The dance was from a music video for a game called Yogurting, that I linked in the article, that predated The Burning Crusade. The dance video you linked was posted after the fact. Not a source.

Another Celebrity Reference
What about Gunny in Honor Hold keep? He is an obvious refernce to R. Lee. "Gunny" Ermy. His dialogue is based on his drill sergeant mannerisms in Full Metal Jacket, and on his show, Mail Call.

Unstoppable Force / Immovable Object
These may also be a (albeit muffed) reference to WrestleMania III, whose main event pitted Hulk Hogan against André the Giant and was billed as "The Irresistable Force Meets the Immovable Object" or something similar.


 * Yeah, and Four Horsemen are inspired by Metallica song name in that case. Correct answer is simple: Wrestlemania main event name was too inspired by same concepts. --Rowaasr13 12:39, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Gadgetzan = Gagazet?
I've been working on a website recently that has all the random small details and easter eggs i've noticed in my favorite movies/anime/video games, etc. and I couldn't help but noticed that Gadgetzan in the snowy region of Tanaris sounds a lot like Gagazet, the snowy mountain from Final Fantasy X. Am I the only one who noticed this? should it be added to the page? Just don't want to add something if it doesn't have much creditbility (sp?) -- Eimii 08:25, 26 March 2007 (EDT)
 * Perhaps if you could find NPCs within Gadgetzan that would hold this find up even more, then it would add to its own credibility - just dig a little deeper and if you find anything then don't be afraid to post it in the article, errors can be removed :) 08:28, 26 March 2007 (EDT)
 * In addition to what Kiltek said, i believe Winterspring / Everlook is the snow one, and Tanaris / Gadgetzan is the desert zone. Remember, if you believe something is worth posting here, then add it, and it can always be removed or edited if its inaccurate.  That's what this Wiki is for, right?  --Radruler, 28 March 2007 -- How do i get that timestamp like everyone does?  I havent used the code in some time, so im a bit rusty.
 * Yeah i just kinda realized that technically its desert.... ><; sorry. bad word choice on my part. i was thinking snow cause its whiteish....but then realized sand can look whiteish...wow i'm so smart. lol. i should stop writing things when i'm tired. then again i was looking so hard for a connection XD and i don't know why you don't have a time stamp.... whenever i hit the thing to put my signature it adds it automatically.... i think it might be the 3 ~. -- Eimii 06:31, 29 March 2007 (EDT)
 * Its ok, 99% of all things in this universe are based on someone's point of view--Even if its flawed, its still worth posting. And for the sig thing, thank Kiltek, he posted the Welcome tag on my page and i quickly relearned the basics.  Its hard to remember everything after being inactive for awhile. xD  Radruler 19:28, 30 March 2007 (EDT)

Should i list everything?
Im just wondering, if we find some zone filled wih refrences, what should we say? Ex. Almost 1 in 3 quests starting in Netherstorm have a Star Trek refrence. I just dont want to spam this page with each refrence, so what should i say/which should i include? --Radruler

Learn how comments work!
There is a great deal of repeated and unorganized information in here. It appears to be a direct result of people not closing their comment tags properly, causing many things to not appear on the page, and later people, seeing them missing, adding them in elsewhere. People, please please please PLEASE do some basic research before using HTML. There is no exclamation mark in the closing of a comment tag, so stop using them unless you want to comment out half the article again. - Dark T Zeratul 05:40, 2 April 2007 (EDT)

Learn how that Summary box works!
So we can actually track your changes rather than having to look through the History tab to see what you've done, please please please! 05:56, 2 April 2007 (EDT)

Split the page?
In going through and doing some organization, I really came to realize just how incredibly bloated this article is. There's even a warning about the filesize of the article when you edit it. I suggest splitting it into multiple articles, with a separate one for each game. - Dark T Zeratul 06:57, 2 April 2007 (EDT)
 * I'd suggest making three pages: One for BC, one for WoW, non BC, and one for The others.--Sky (t · c · w) 07:00, 2 April 2007 (EDT)
 * Pretty sure a BC page already exists, so before flagging this article, would suggest you locate it (I can't be bothered =P) 07:38, 2 April 2007 (EDT)
 * With people still posting BC stuff in the Vanilla section (even though it's actually below the BC section, I simply don't understand this...) I strongly support this. Until then, how about a note telling people to check thoroughly whether the information they want to add is not there already? ~ IconSmall Druid.gif ŋ ɑ  ϑ  22:39, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Lady Dena Kennedy
If you ask me, this is a rather dubious reference. Perhaps I'm missing something, not being a huge follower of the Dead Kennedys, but is there any significance to the reference other then the name "Kennedy?" Kennedy is a fairly common name, and I would think it's more likely a reference to the Kennedy clan of politicians then the DK's. If there is a legitimate DK reference besides the last name, feel free to clarify; otherwise, I'm thinking this should be removed. -- CW Sensation  18:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

WTF Kraftwerk?
How can we possibly say that Patchwerk's name comes from this (lousy) German band named Kraftwerk? They just meant to call him Patchwork and changed one letter so it appears slightly better, and by the way "werk" merely means "work" in German, so there's no actual reason to keep this comment here. I'll remove it within a week if none answers to this.-- K )  (talk) 12:31, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Avenger's Shield
There's a paladin ability (protection spec) called Avenger's Shield which has the pally throw his shield at his enemies. I'm thinking this might be a reference to Captain America, who is known to do exactly that, and who is often affiliated with a superhero team called the Avengers. Think I've found something, or is this just a coincidence? Bragus 20:15, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Avenger's shield is already listed here -> In-Jokes and References (Games, TV and Movies) 20:21, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Marcus Aurelius
Marcus Aurelius was a real Roman Emperor, not just some character in Gladiator. I suggest to remove that part, and/or moving the Marc Aurel reference to to "Other" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by.

Ozzy Osbourne & Jenna Jameson Added.
I added the pop culture references to Jenna Jameson and Ozzy Osbourne. I can't believe nobody caught onto them! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by.

Forrest Gump
I guess, Fruit of the Sea quest and Gubber Blump character is an obvious reference to the Bubba character in the movie (and novel). Bubukisa

Chasing Amy
It seemed to be so, that Chasing A-Me 01 (original) is named after a movie of Kevin Smith, Chasing Amy. Tiazar.
 * Which is... mentioned in the article? ~ 18:21, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Lost (TV series)
Kharmaa's Shroud of Hope added by patch 2.3 may be a reference to DHARMA Initiative from TV series Lost.
 * Konoko84 20:21, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Duplicates
We really need to place a HUGE sign on top of the article reminding people to a) check if the info they want to add isn't already in there and b) place it in the right section, because most duplicates come from people reading (a hypothetical example) the BC Star Trek section, noticing it doesn't list that guy with the techno-glasses, and wanting to add him. ~ 14:56, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I noticed that Dune is under Literature at two different spots in the article, even mentioning some of the same info both times. I'm not too good with wiki pages, so could someone merge the two together? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by.
 * I moved the Jom Gabbar paragraph from BC to Classic. So much for Dune, now to the other 40000 references... er, but lemme go buy some cigarettes first... *vanishes* 15:25, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

One of the complaints is "too long". Should we split this into separate pages for each release (and thus worry less about duplicate references? Or perhaps split by reference type (movie/comic/whatever)?  Or option C that I haven't thought of yet? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:22, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Battlestar Galactica Reference
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/arena/tournament/index.xml

In the Arena Combat Subsection of this page there are two combatants named Apollo and Boomer. Having them individually would give me a doubt about it being a BSG reference but together, it deffo is. On a side note I could claim that some Skyguard quotes or terms (nugget) could also be a BSG reference but they could have easily been lifted from other sources. Adding it to "References to television" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by.

The 2 Ring
lol, someone plz add, which was added in 2.4. I'm not sure where to put it. WakemanCK 17:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Put it in List_of_pop_culture_references_in_Warcraft, Under J.R.R. Tolkien, if you wish to.-- 17:33, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I wonder if this "two ring" might be any kind of weird obscure reference to Turing, but it's probably not. ~ 18:21, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


 * No, it's likely a reference to the flavor text on The 1 Ring.-- 18:25, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


 * O rly. I meant that when you say "two ring", it sounds like "Turing", but that's probably unintended, as "two ring" simply comes after "one ring". ~ 15:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Shakespear Reference in UC
The post under Literary Shakespeare is wrong, it lists the 4 bankers from Undercity as being references to Hamlet & Romeo & Juliette, however if you look they are actually referencing 1983's "Trading Places" where the 4 main characters are named Randolph, Mortimer, Ophelia & William. Their last names can be attributed to Shakespeare's Romeo & Juliet but that is the only part. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by.

WotLK
No Wrath of the Lich King section yet? ~  ŋ ɑ  ϑ  10:38, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle
Dalaran sewers, in the pit fighting arena room, there are three sewer pipes leading upwards. On the center pile there is a rat standing on its haunches with four little turtles facing him in a semi-circle in the water below. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by.

Thorvald
Thorvald a reference to Linus Torvalds? Fotcorn (talk)

Katherine Lee
I there is an actual person named Katherine Lee who is a health and food editor for Working Mother. Consider changes... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by.


 * While the food connection might be sounding good, it is unlikely that anyone at Blizzard knows of this woman or even the magazine. Not to be sounding to relying on Google, but until you add "Working Mother" (58 results), she doesn't show up between the various other Katherine Lees (among them a recent internet celeb and the author of the words to the anthem "America the Beautiful", which didn't ring a bell at all until I read the lyrics. Forgive me, I'm European. ~ Nathanyel (talk) 10:19, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Babe
In Warcraft II,when you click on a sheep a few times,it says somethin like "Ba ram eww",or how does the phrase that the sheep from Babe were saying go. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by.

The Dark Crystal
I'm dumbfounded that no one has seen fit to add this here. The Arakkoa are an almost direct reference to the Skeksis from the film The Dark Crystal. They look like Skeksis, they move like Skeksis, and their chief base of operations is called "Skettis". Then there's the "Darkstone" (Dark Crystal?) in Veil Skith. How much more obvious could it be? Several other pages regarding Skettis and the Arakkoa on this Wiki already make reference to the highly likely inspiration by Jim Henson's avio-reptilian villians. This one should as well. --Tombstone1881 (talk) 08:37, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I think it was listed on here at some point, at least I remember reading about this reference, but that could've been on Wowhead. Feel free to add it (in the proper section). ~ Nathanyel (talk) 12:51, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

WotLK - Music: Blue Sky Logging Grounds
Is almost certainly a referance to the hit Midnight Oil song "Blue Sky Mining"

Both are about destroying nature (Strip-mines and Logging) and both contain "Blue Sky"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Sky_Mining ADCK (talk) 14:15, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Sounds plausible. While not 100% confirmable, I'd let it stay. ~ Nathanyel (talk) 16:16, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Aerith Primrose?
I get the Aerith references, but I get the sinking suspicion that Primrose is a reference to something. Anyone got any ideas?
 * I think just the fact that she was a flower vendor in FF7; someone can feel free to correct me if there's something more than that though. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 10:09, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The word Primrose itself is the name of a flower. Rolandius [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] ( talk -  contr ) 11:08, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Revert needed.
Am not sure how to revert, but someone added the line "From Harborak He's my great great uncle IRL " in the last edit, this should be removed. ADCK (talk) 14:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. It's not really that hard to undo changes like this one, though, simply use the "undo" button If you can't get that one to work, simply edit from the previous version, or change the part in question by hand. ~ Nathanyel (talk) 00:30, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Sarkhoff... Zarkov?
Arrived at the New Agamand flight point a few minutes ago, standing right next to Tobias Sarkhoff and thought "wait, doesn't this surname sound like Zarkov?" Since there have been Sarkhoffs since Vanilla, I wonder why this hasn't been brought up yet. ~ Nathanyel (talk) 23:51, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Cleaning Up
This article is in desperate need of cleaning up. Major problems include unsourced references that often have already been debunked on the articles themselves (and even references being debunked on this very page) and the same reference appearing in many different places. There are also occasional spelling errors and even references without explanation of why they are references. It’s quite horrible, actually. In addition, I suggest that all World of Warcraft categories be turned into one.  Xavius, the Satyr Lord  11:50, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh yes! What is the difference between Easter eggs and a Pop culture Reference ?
 * One only category for all the Quests · Kalimdor · Eastern Kingdoms · Outland · Northrend · Items · Emotes · Games, TV and movies · Pop references is absolitely required.
 * I'm gonna try it.
 * 12:18, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * An Easter egg is a hard to find or semi-hidden joke, a pop culture reference is a name or comment ripped from another work. I think they were split up at one point or being too big as one page. See here.-- 17:01, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, but still, many references are in twice or more subzones...
 * 17:16, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * In two Subzones or on two subpages? I agree that the separate pages can be cleaned up.-- 17:38, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I mean on Easter/Pop/In-jokes(quests&all). There are surely many doubles in those pages.
 * 18:33, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

The Big Lebowski?
In the section on movies, close to the top, there's a thing under The Big Lebowski saying that the quest "Out of My Element" is a "direct reference" to something in the movie. Being out of your element is just a way of saying that you're not comfortable with the situation. I vote for removing it, and if someone doesn't respond to this in a week, I will. GameSageZB (talk) 08:20, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The actual reference is the NPC Donny himself, that he uses this phrase just confirms/emphasizes this reference. The phrase is part of the whole reference and should stay. ~ Nathanyel (talk) 10:56, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Then the reference should reflect that. Simply saying that the "Out of my Element" part does not constitute a reference. GameSageZB (talk) 18:12, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 *  'This is a direct reference to the character named Donny (played by Steve Buscemi) in The Big Lebowski. Several times in one of the major scenes, Walter Sobchak (played by John Goodman) tells Donny "You're out of your element!"'  How does that not underline that the NPC Donny and his quest are a reference to the character Donny and a phrase from the movie that is associated with him? Of course the paragraph could be rephrased, but I think there are more pressing style, content and consistency problems in this article. ~ Nathanyel (talk) 22:01, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I could have sworn when I first read that, that the reference did not contain the NPC name. Hmm...  If it did, sorry about that. GameSageZB (talk) 18:48, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

X-com 2: terror from the deep
The elementium-115 could also refer to elerium-115 --Vidinufi (talk) 13:42, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Is there anything else around that would indicate that is so? GameSageZB (talk) 18:40, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Formatting and Splitting
I know there's been some discussion over splitting the pages and was wondering about whether anything had been decided on it. If so, can we go ahead and do it? Also, there's something to be said for editing all the entries so that they don't all read "this an obvious reference" or "this obviously references" and things like that, especially since A. many of these are not obvious references, and B. it gets annoying reading down the page when you have to read each one of those. GameSageZB (talk) 18:40, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * What would it be split into?-- 21:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * List of Pop Culture references in WoW/BC/WotLK GameSageZB (talk) 19:51, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Blind are you?
 * 20:00, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Some slightly more constructive criticism would help, rather than being insulting. Yes, I see the page is neatly broken into sections.  Yes, I see that not all of the references have the word "obvious" in it, I'm merely bringing up the topic of splitting. GameSageZB (talk) 20:16, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Just being ironical.
 * The Classic/BC/Wotlk parts are already done, what more do you suggest to split?
 * Removing the games/tv/cine?
 * Develop your idea, show us a course of action.
 * 21:03, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, scratch the whole splitting thing. Perhaps I am blind, or at least don't pay attention to headings/categories.  That still leaves the other thing, about changing the format of the references to have some standard.  Like, "Such and such, in blah area, is a reference to link because of blah." GameSageZB (talk) 18:59, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Formatting and splitting, take two
No, not going to give over the splitting thing. However, allow me to suggest this: as each individual section is already large enough for the wiki software to whine about it, I suggest we split the page into Each of these should be constructed to be transcluded into the current page. Thus, the current page remains intact, but the individual sections are more readily edited. Least disturbance to achieve the goal. But, what would this do to  instances?
 * Popular culture references in Wrath of the Lich King
 * Popular culture references in Burning Crusade
 * Popular culture references in World of Warcraft

As for format:
 * Games, Film and Television is most commonly known by the name of the piece. I have no objection to indexing them by name.  I entered this debate seeing part of the Literature sections organized by author, part by work.  I think Author is the more sane method to index it.  Many authors have several works referenced to them.
 * By expansion, or by media? - I think we'd be a whole lot better off if we organized the page by "what was referenced" over "which expansion it was referenced in". There are a lot of cases where more than one expansion referred to the same film, or the same author's work.   In that case, I would recommend a split along the lines of "Popular cultural references in Literature" etc.  --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:41, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I've thought about this as well. I think the current arrangement with large sections per expansion was maybe more convenient as it was being created, but is not all that useful. I'd favor a split into different pages per medium: Movie references in Warcraft; Music references, etc., ie along the same lines as within each expansion section now. -- Harveydrone 16:27, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

A Penny for your thoughts + Silver in the City
The fishing achievement A Penny For Your Thoughts is a reference to 's song, in the chorus 'a penny for your thoughts my dear'. Also the singer of this group is called '' so it's also joint with fishing..--Bhu z Crecelu (talk) 09:19, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

And I also add that the achievement Silver in the City is a reference to the song .--Bhu z Crecelu (talk) 12:23, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


 * "a penny for your thoughts" is a common phrase for "I want to know what you're so thoughtful about". Silver/Summer in the City sounds like an actual reference, though. ~ Nathanyel (talk) 13:19, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, it just sounded familiar to me frmo the song, did'nt know about this phrase, thanks--Bhu z Crecelu (talk) 14:51, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Size
This article is way too large. BobNamataki (talk) 22:29, November 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * It probably could be split up per game. 00:36, November 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * See Talk:List_of_pop_culture_references_in_Warcraft a few sections up.-- 01:05, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Rocky 3, anyone?
With numerous "I pitied the fool" references, how can anyone miss this one?


 * More people recall "The A Team" and Mr T, perhaps, than recall Rocky 3. However, "Pity the fool" does come up at the very first quote for that movie on IMDB.  You should add that reference. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 21:32, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Wonder Woman
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=5203

In that quest, when Arko'narin find Trey's belongings and gets geared up, she channels some visual spell where she does her "whirlwind" animation. Then after she's done, she briefly says, "Now all I need is a Golden lasso." How anyone missed this or forgot to put this up is beyond me...

Series?
Should subsections with references to multiple titles in a series be headed with just the name of the series, or as “[series name] series” (for instance, “The Legend of Zelda series”)? Because to me, it seems unnecessary to explicitly say it’s a series. —Frungi (talk) 06:08, March 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Pop culture is not the same for everyone. The fact that something is a series is not necessarily known to everyone. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 21:50, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

sectioned page and [edit] links
People still just search for the first occurrence of "movie/book/band" and then click the next [edit] link to add stuff that's missing in their opinion, mostly pre-WotLK stuff to the WotLK section. Can we somehow disable these edit links for the imported sections? ~ Nathanyel (talk) 10:51, April 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Then how would they be edited? —Frungi (talk) 11:24, April 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * The point is getting people to realize that this is sectioned by expansion. Once you know that, you can easily go to the subpages (we might even link them somewhere) so that one can add the appropriate stuff in the appropriate place. ~ Nathanyel (talk) 11:50, April 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * The section edit links can't be selectively disabled without changing  to something that will look the same; however, then that section will no longer be listed on the page's TOC.   can be added to disable them all.
 * Well there aren't any other other important sections that need the edit links, or maybe it would work to put a  on the subpages. Anyway, I suggest this to be applied somehow, I support any solution that disencourages unexperienced users to just edit a single paragraph without taking a look at the "bigger picture". That, or the already often suggested removal of the sectioning altogether. Achievements for pre-WotLK content, and "soon" Cataclysm changes to Classic content make it difficult to categorize them properly. Ultimately, I'm just discontent with the many duplicates on this page, especially the recent (subjective) flood of "new" entries, and would welcome any improvement. ~ Nathanyel (talk) 09:08, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Mobile Suit Gundam 00?
The Ascended Windwalker in Grim Batol has an ability called Windwalk, where the Ascended Windwalker suddenly blazes around irregularly in a blur while slashing at Players, leaving a series of after-images in its wake. This is very similar, especially visually, to the given abilities of the TRANS-AM System used by numerous Mobile Suits in said anime series.

I'm not for certain if it's correct or if it warrants an actual entry in the article, so I thought I'd ask here first. Thanks again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by.
 * I do believe some ethereal mobs do this as well. 05:04, 14 July 2011 (UTC)


 * While "moving as swift as the wind" is a common theme in eastern media in general, I don't think that's the origin the idea. I can't say often enough that while copying/adapting previous elements, settings and characters is used heavily in modern media, to the point of making exactly that the central point of the product, it's used even more often in Manga/Anime. Nearly all fantasy settings are mash-ups of multiple legends from all over the world, and I wouldn't be surprised if that held true for the SF subgenre as well. ~ Nathanyel (talk) 12:18, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Xenogears
Okay, I'm going to put this here because I refuse to be dragged into an edit war. The Xenogears reference keeps getting reverted, presumably by someone who's never played the game. Fleet Master Seahorn's line during the Protectors of Hyjal quest is a clear Xenogears reference. Hell, last time I played the game was about 10 years ago, and I *still* recognized it as a Xenogears reference (although I was little fuzzy as to which character said it at first). The fact that's it being reverted because Xenogears is somehow "obscure" (LOL WAT) or that "man of the sea" is another name for a sailor is beyond silly. Fleet Master Seahorn says the line IN THE SAME FASHION as the Captain of the Thames! See here. Wowhead has also picked up on the Xenogears reference. StarNeptune (talk) 07:46, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Fine, for the general similarity, re-add it if you want, but please with a "may". I read Seahorn's line as "I am a tauren, but I am also a man of the sea. I am a tauren of the sea!"
 * Btw, that someone else on Wowhead had the same idea as you is no source. ~ Nathanyel (talk) 12:17, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Gurren Lagaan
Suprised this hasn't been added yet: Quest chain in Feralas that starts with. The quests are a reference to a memetically popular song from the anime "Gurren Lagaan." --Beetalogist (talk) 23:14, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Millhouse Is Not a Meme Reference
Removed the entry about Millhouse Manastorm being a reference to the Simpsons character, because the only thing those two characters have in common is a first name. While Millhouse is certainly not the most common first name, it's certainly not unique. Unless someone can come up with a reason why a gray-haired gnome mage has anything to do with Bart Simpson's friend, I suggest just calling a reach a reach. DigitalUtopia (talk) 08:56, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * There are many weaker references out there. Mil(l)house is short, blue-haired, chatty, and gets into trouble that is not his fault. Manastorm might be a jab at Bonestorm. ~ Nathanyel (talk) 09:48, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Gonna have to agree with DigitalUtopia on this one; it sounds like you're grasping at straws trying to justify something. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 10:28, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Millhouse Manastorm is short and chatty because he's a gnome, has gray/white hair, and gets into trouble that's almost always his fault. He also doesn't have glasses, is an adult, and Bonestorm didn't even exist in the game until Lord Marrowgar was introduced in Wrath of the Lich King. So again, unless someone can provide actual evidence, that didn't come out of one's nether regions, that Millhouse Manastorm is in any way a reference to the Simpsons character, it should be removed. DigitalUtopia (talk) 08:56, 25 February 2014 (UTC)