Talk:Scarlet Monastery

PvP Condition
What is the Monestary's position on Pvp realms? I went by the instance portals on the Shattered Hand realm and the place was covered in skeletons, almost like a non-instanced BG. Hordesupporter 22:19, 2 April 2007 (EDT)


 * It's Horde territory, but that doesn't stop either side from fighting each other. However, it's usually empty enough that it doesn't become a large scale battleground. Besides, the ease of escape into the instance portals makes PvP difficult. --Mikaka 20:07, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

Yeah... for me its more common to find the corpses all around the meeting stone, but I do sometimes find corpses in the area around the portals, as for escape into the portals, remember some classes... like Mage, have multiple "snare" attacks, in fact almost all classes have some kind of "slow-down" techique. Although my BE pally can just put on divine shield and race into a portal. Hordesupporter 00:02, 19 April 2007 (EDT)

Seperate pages for wings?
The new winged dungeons of Outland all have seperate pages for each wing of the instance. For consistencie's sake, should the wings of dungeons like Scarlet Monastery and Dire Maul also be seperated from the main article? While there's not as much information for the various wings of this dungeon then there are for the newer pages, I think we could still fill out enough to constatute a decent article. --Mikaka 20:10, 9 April 2007 (EDT)
 * This sounds like a great idea to me, I think it would be much easier to navigate if separated, but perhaps keep the main SM page up with links to the other four? --Jiyambi 18:46, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Make a nav template!-- 19:07, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Seeing as this still hasn't been done, that it was brought up in IRC a few days ago, and that Varghedin has correctly redone the zone's categories (ie. it's not an instance itself), i've added split to the article. Hopefully get some attention now. --  http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/sig-av/wiki_zeal.png|User:Zeal  http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/sig-av/wiki_talk.png|User talk:Zeal  http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/sig-av/wiki_contribs.png|Special:Contributions/Zeal  http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/sig-av/wiki_end.png|User:Zeal  17:05, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, i also thing it would be best to make seperate pages for the wings (both wiki-wise and reader-wise)Kh1ndjal 22:06, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Reason why it should not be separate
Not sure if anyone is still urging for this, but I believe this bears a mention:

The winged dungeons in Outland are completely separate instances, while SM's wings - despite being separate from each other - are still technically the same instance (it doesn't say "Monastery Cathedral" or "Monastery Library", it just says "Scarlet Monastery"). Leave it as is. --Joshmaul (talk) 05:27, 30 May 2008 (UTC)


 * If you're willing to take the time to try it, it's actually possible to get from one wing to another without even going out through the portals. There's a way to get up onto the walls of one wing and drop down into another (don't ask me how, I haven't tried to do it myself; I only know that there's a way to get onto the walls). I doubt you can do the same thing with the Outlands instances.
 * Plus, all of the wings of the Outlands dungeons are so long that it wouldln't make sense to try to make a page to with all the sections of the dungeon. Felindre

Copyrighted Material
Hello,

this guide about Scarlet Monastery was NOT originally taken from an anonymous author on Allakhazam.com. This guide was written for www.wow-pro.com by Jame in 2004. I'm sure many people know Jame from his leveling guides and know that he always writes his guides himself. Here a link to our original version of the Scarlet Monastery Guide: http://www.wow-pro.com/node/585. However the date of publishing you see there is NOT the real date this guide was published for the first time because our site had been restructured and overhauled last year. The original version dates back to 2004, when the site went live for the first time, as this was one of Jame's very first guides.

Anyway we DO have legit proof of Jame having a copyright on this guide and we won't hesitate to reveal them in a trial if necessary. Also many of our readers who follow our site from the start know that this guide has been there from the very start almost.

We are aware that this is not the only place this guide was published illegally and we are currently sending emails to those people to have them removed from their sites.

Regards, Admin WoW-Pro

New Heroic
Shouls we make a new article to distinguish betwen the old a new instances?--Ashbear160 (talk) 11:28, 23 October 2011 (UTC)


 * For now we don't know much more that what is written in the section, but when the infos will arrive, we will turn it into Scarlet Monastery (original) for preservation
 * 05:25, 24 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Since they'll likely change up everything like they did with Deadmines/Shadowfang Keep, this will likely be how we'll handle it. Fresh start is always nice. 05:37, 24 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Some details are slowly unveiled, I will make the move soon to avoid any confusion of infos
 * 09:59, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Split page
I would love to split the page into the main Scarlet Monastery lore article and several seperate articles about the different instances (Cathedral, Armory, Graveyard, Library, Scarlet Halls, Scarlet Cathedral). Similar to Stratholme, Ahn'Qiraj, or Blackrock Mountain. However I want to discuss it first since the Cathedral, Armory, Graveyard and Library are no "true" seperate instances. But it would help organize the page and reduce it. --LemonBaby (talk) 14:44, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd consider them separate instances, since it's not possible to travel from one to the other. Hell, Upper and Lower Blackrock Spire *AREN'T* separate instances, and they're still split pages. As the one who recently split Stratholme in this manner, I approve. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 17:07, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Not to mention the LFG tool who give a ticket for each wing alone.
 * 07:11, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Original categories
Since this place was basically turned into a hub with 2 separate instances placed within, probably didn't need to create original mob/npc categories, since the Category:Scarlet Monastery mobs‎, Category:Scarlet Monastery NPCs, Category:Scarlet Monastery items, Category:Scarlet Monastery quests will no longer be used. Instead the new content will be placed into their new respective categories. 02:22, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


 * yes, I did not see they were given different names
 * maybe, that would be good if we have new npcs in the monastery entrance
 * 07:59, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Back to (original) since the "Monastery" is now used twice
 * 07:09, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

MoP
As said on the Ragefire Chasm page: as long as mist is not live this page belongs to the instance in game. All the zones and instances in the Cata beta were moved to the original page AFTER its release and not before.--LemonBaby (talk) 09:05, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Interesting Bug
I was running this dungeon with my level 110 Paladin for just transmog (that sword though) with resets for the raids were about to happen in 1 minute. I was about to kill Brother Korloff when all of a sudden the Gryphon loading screen popped up and I was disconnected from the game. I logged back in and I was suddening in a level 110 Scarlet Monastery with Nazgrim and a lot of Scarlet's to his grip, strangling in the air. As I recall this is the scenario for the Death Knights who eventually get Sally Whitemane as a champion. What do you guys think? Need proof? Let me know and I'll upload the screenshot I did. 15:14, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Ohh interesting! You were in the level 90 hc version, and then upon weekly reset, got changed to the high level "scenario" version? Will have to try that myself! PeterWind (talk) 15:40, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Yea! That exactly! I know that because I remember doing that scenario for my Death Knight which lead to unlocking Whitemane as a champion! I couldn't get out of the place except using a hearthstone or some sort of portal but I went ahead and went to the final boss, the event didn't do anything but key quotes were still being said as I walked by people and killed main people of the scenario. 16:57, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Worked exactly like you said! Thanks for the tip. Makes me wonder if the same thing would happen in other instances with "scenario" versions aswell. PeterWind (talk) 15:04, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Was able to get some sneaky stealthy screenshots that we were missing for those mobs on my druid :) PeterWind (talk) 16:19, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Nice! I can't believe you managed it as well! Surely this must be a bug. Nice on the pictures too. :D 14:09, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Must be. My druid was even phased in with other death knights! PeterWind (talk) 14:36, 21 September 2017 (UTC)