Talk:Argus

Old discussion
I wonder if one of those Dimensional gateways in Outland goes to here. --Xmuskrat 10:14, 3 November 2006 (EST)


 * Possible, but I think it unlikely. It would be one of the most heavily fortified planets in the Nether, being Kil'jaeden's headquarters. Of course, just because players can go there doesn't mean they'll come back in one piece.-- Ragestorm (talk · contr) 23:19, 13 January 2007 (EST)
 * Psh, heavily fortified worlds never stopped Sg-1, ;). Course players aren't SG-1, and this isn't stargate. heh heh. humor aside...Baggins 23:21, 13 January 2007 (EST)


 * Don't joke. I think Stargate Worlds is still under development (can you say "copyright infringement"?). Besides, Anubis has nothing on Kil'jaeden.-- Ragestorm (talk · contr) 23:22, 13 January 2007 (EST)
 * Hah Hah. Kil'jaeden vs. Ori?Baggins 23:23, 13 January 2007 (EST)

Talk:Argus, remember?-- Ragestorm (talk · contr) 23:25, 13 January 2007 (EST)

Heh, heh, I'm done.Baggins 23:27, 13 January 2007 (EST)

Did the titans have anything to do with Argus? I've sort of imagined that Sargeras stumbled upon the Eredar with interest, as if he didn't know they already existed. I figure that this could be for a number of reasons. First, he wasn't there when the Pantheon shaped it. Insted he was off somewhere eliminating dangerous and chaotic forces. Second, the pantheon shaped Argus after he became corrupt. Or third, the eredar were not the same creatures they were when the pantheon left. They evolved into the beings that they were when Sargeras found them. Or Argus was untouched by the titans. So basically, did the titans have anything to do with Argus? Maarz


 * We don't know. This goes back to the question of whether the naaru are connected with the titans, because the naaru have had a connection with Argus in the distant past- no mention of the Titans. It's possible that the naaru are connected with the titans, and that Argus was one of their Ordered worlds. It's also possible that they are not connected, and Sargeras found the Eredar a different way. -- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 20:10, 9 February 2007 (EST)

Argusian
How would you refer to a native of Argus? Argusian? Is this documented anywhere, or can we only assume...? Zaytsev 17:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Well they are just called "Eredar". As for planet we level we can only assume. Although for proper way to refer to them, I'd think it would probably be something similar to whatever people from "Argos" were called. But I have no idea what they were called.Baggins 17:16, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * People from Argos are Argives. -- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 01:20, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks.Baggins 04:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Official response from WoW support states that it's Argussian, reflected in the name of the Argussian Compass trinket... so now we know! Zaytsev 14:32, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Why not Argonaut? That name is already existent from an also existent name - Argus (Argonauts). -- 17:12, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, Argonaut comes from their, ship, Argo, which was itself named after Argus, the shipbuilder. The -naut suffix comes from a Greek word meaning "sailor" (same root as the word "nautical") and refers to voyagers or travellers. Good for the draenei perhaps, but not the casual native... "Argive" as I stated above is the English term for the residents of Argos, sometimes spelled with a "u". But as Zaytsev points out, Blizzard seems to be using "Argussian." -- Ragestorm  (talk &middot; contr) 17:20, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Anybody noticed that the caretaker in Harry Potter is named Argus as well? The Lore Nerd (talk) 17:37, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It's probably unrelated. Apart from about half a dozen mythological figures named Argus, there are innumerable other things with that name, including companies, vehicle models, and other fictional characters/organizations. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:59, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The HP caretaker is probably named Argus after Argos Panoptes, Hera's hundred-eyed guard in Greek mythology- they both watch things. As far as we know, the Warcraft Argus doesn't have that association. -- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 19:37, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Outland's Skyscape
Is it possible that the large planet you see in the sky, in Hellfire Peninsula and other zones, could be Argus? If we can see Azeroth from Black Temple, and the planet hasn't been confirmed as any other, it's highly probable.


 * I don't think so as the "Draenei" travelled forever in "space" until they ever found Draenor. Rolandius [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] ( talk -  contr ) 05:48, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Future of wow
i think they'll eventually let players go to argus later on in wow, then we can finally figure out what exactly has become of it :)


 * This is not a forum.-- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 05:45, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

This already exists
Why was my edit reverted? As far as I can see, the image from the patch 7.2 I've uploaded is not in this article.--Adûnâi (talk) 23:14, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I meant the file, it's fixed now -- MyMindWontQuiet (talk) 23:34, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, you're right.--Adûnâi (talk) 23:38, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Visible
Is it visible from other zones besides the Broken Isles'? --Mordecay (talk) 21:05, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Rift portal vs actually present
So the newest cinematic showed us that Argus is... ?--Mordecay (talk) 22:39, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Rift. The blog post keeps saying Argus is "connected" to Azeroth through the Keystone, contrary to Argus being teleported there.

"Following recent events in the Broken Isles, a link has been created between Azeroth and Kil'jaeden's homeworld of Argus""

"Azeroth isn’t the only world connected to this hostile place. While on Argus, you’ll unlock the ability to enter the very portals the Burning Legion use to transport to other worlds. Once there, complete an event or defeat a boss to earn epic rewards.

-- MyMindWontQuiet 23:30, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Cool! --Mordecay (talk) 23:37, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Khadgar also says the following :
 * "Never in my life would I imagine that I would travel to another world, much less the home of the Legion. Until Illidan ripped open a portal and I hopped on a draenei vessel to travel the skies to the fight directly to the Legion.
 * It's a good thing my hair has gone white, I suppose. Modera says it makes me lookdistinguished."
 * Which confirms that 1) it is a portal 2) Khadgar has amnesia because he did go to other worlds before, namely Draenor, shattered Draenor, and Draenor bis. -- MyMindWontQuiet 00:07, 25 August 2017 (UTC)


 * It is so frickin heart touching to see Blizzard caring for continuity references! --Mordecay (talk) 00:16, 25 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Modera seems cute <3 Xporc (talk) 11:04, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Even worse, Turalyon is very happy to see " " again. So if you're an orc, pandaren, worgen, blood elf, pandaren or whatever, Turalyon is either a seer or mad. -- MyMindWontQuiet 19:18, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Regarding the rift dividing Argus
A cataclysm is not a physical feature, so it is't the case that Argus' rift ends in a cataclysm. Let's find a word that works for that sentence in the description.


 * StarCraft Wiki made up the term "major geological fracture cataclysm" for the planet of Redstone III, which has a similar look.-- 23:58, 22 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I replaced the description with the wording from the newly published audio drama (the bolded part) : "It is now bisected by a massive, hellish slash in the crust of the planet itself, where a portion of the planet has been blown into orbit." -- MyMindWontQuiet 12:33, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Location
The Illidan novel states that Argus was now "located on the brink between the Twisting Nether and the Great Dark Beyond".

The 1000 years of war audio-drama says that Argus is "fully shrouded within the Nether", and also "But Argus was within the Twisting Nether. Every enemy the army felled would stay down forever." -- MyMindWontQuiet 12:30, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Retcon, yes? --Mordecay (talk) 23:11, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
 * If not, perhaps it is an issue of degree. Like fully submerged, but still really close to the material plane. It is still a planet.-- 23:55, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by "It is still a planet" ? But yes I agree. I'll use the most recent source for the introduction, but I'll create a Location section where we can find all statements and maybe reconcile them. -- MyMindWontQuiet 12:31, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Is there a source stating that Argus was originally in the Great Dark? --Mordecay (talk) 16:24, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
 * During TBC according to the Illidan novel it was between the Great Dark and the Nether. Now according to the audio-drama it is just in the Nether ("fully shrouded within the Nether"). Thal'kiel's skull artifact lore also mentions "Seeking to elevate his order to levels undreamed of, he searched uncharted terrain, venturing farther than any eredar had dared before. His spells plumbed the vastness of the Great Dark Beyond, petitioning for a deeper well of power" and "He gazed into the depths of the Great Dark Beyond and embraced that which gazed back. He saw worlds consumed by fel fire, dark creatures of the Twisting Nether overrunning mortal civilizations, the conquest of creation" and also Thal'kiel summoned demons from the Nether and then banished them back to the Nether "His only companions were the demonic minions he would summon and then banish in rage, or so we guessed--all we could hear were the shrieks of imps as they were thrust back and forth between this realm and the Twisting Nether."-- MyMindWontQuiet 16:37, 10 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Aah, okay! The artifact lore confirms it, especially the last sentence. --Mordecay (talk) 16:48, 10 February 2018 (UTC)