Talk:Algalon the Observer

Who is he?
From what I've heard, this guy is a beacon for the Titans, anyone can confirm this? --Llanerian 17:31 21/3/'09


 * With the datamined info, yes we know Algalon is the Observer of Azeroth for the Titans. But no "official" source are know for now. 18:14, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I know this is not a forum, but looking at the quotes, it looks like the fight will have either race against time or somewhat unconventional phase to choose an action which either will bring azeroth's doom or chance for salvation. Also it might be possible, maybe even probable that Algalon won't be killed, but subdued.

Well, we'll see how it is probably soon. --RocketBrother (talk) 11:03, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Quest
How do you know about the quest to unlock the door? Pudim17 (talk - contr) 17:17, 30 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Datamined my dear Watson ! 18:57, 30 March 2009 (UTC)


 * http://ptr.wowhead.com/?quest=13614 says that it would give a key by bringing "Sigil of the Watchers" to the console. Given that there is an icon with the combined images from the seals of Freya, Hodir, Mimiron and Thorim, this information would probably be accurate. -- 09:10, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


 * All 5 are grouped in a Cat : Category:WoW_Icons:_Inventory_Sigil. The quest seems accurate and leading to a scripted end-event. 09:16, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


 * So, Mimiron is truly the 4th Watcher, well I don't like it, since he is a Mechagnome, I hope his model is only a placeholder. Pudim17 (talk - contr) 13:11, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Official site
Read the summary table on the right of this page. I think it's an error of the editor, in fact if you go to the Ulduar dungeon page, a silent observer is mentioned. --N&#39;Nanz (talk) 07:49, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Edit: Looks like it's already been fixed by blizzard. Drpancake


 * So the Blue Guys read wowwiki... xD 08:52, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Official Secrets of Ulduar Wallpaper
Looks like that the spectral constellation entity depicted in the Official Secrets of Ulduar wallpaper casting a spell over the Azeroth's globe is, in fact, Algalon the Observer. Orisai (talk) 20:00, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Reason
He is trying to warn the Pantheon that the planet is infected. Why do we go there and simply kill him? Pudim17 (talk - contr) 17:46, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Because if he successfully delivers his message, the Titans will "reset" the planet, killing everything that's currently living on it. -- 18:08, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * would be major lol if last expansion is azeroth vs the entire pantheon though :P
 * its nice that blizz gave an encounter that wont be defeated in first couple of weeks, not many will be able to clear it though i guess, any idea what he says after defeat? or no one got the file yet? --lucifersama 08:47, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The file has been "overgotten" xD, it's kind of "you win, blablabla, you love life so much, blablabla, I have killed billion of innocents, I'm a monster, blablabla, forgive me, blablabla, I change the code, blablabla, take my phat purples"
 * The final quest name is perfect for this : "All Is Well That Ends Well"
 * 08:54, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


 * And not delivering message means same reply like Omega...

Aftermath
Algalon clearly mentions that planetary defences have been corrupted completly... Well I could be wrong but main defences of Azeroth WERE 5 dragonflights... Malygos's fligh is nearly wiped out so other four may be corrupted also... even Alexstrazsa. Deathwing bathes in insanity for thousands of years, Ysera is deep in nightmare, Nozdormu probably leads Infinites, and Alexstrazsa have taken out Malygos, who in fact did only job he was supposed to do for ten thousand years bud he didn't.


 * Not only the 5 Dragonflight (from which 2 are fairly out of control) but also the mad Keepers left to watch Yogg-Saron (and possibly The Two other). Also, "Kalimdor" is no more the one single continent the Titans created, so it could be considered as a failure too.
 * 11:15, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Well I would call "Kalimdor problem" partial corruption in planet life support system - Yogg-Sarons a C´Thuns prisons were completly separate from the first Well of Eternity- in there are those Three gods of unrivaled power. Yogg-Saron and C´thun were fairly weak to say the least... it took all Titans (including "moarned" Sargeras) to imprison the three.
 * But my concerns is more about dragonflights...


 * C'Thun was never imprisoned. He was thought dead and we are relatively sure he was cut in half. It's mentioned he was "sundered" in the War of the Shifting Sands lore. He was already weak when we killed him. Yogg saron on the other hand may not have been killed. The small part of him that we kill, or think we do is just that, a small part. His blood is saronite so wit that said, we find saronite all over Northrend leading to the conclusion that he is a MASSIVE being and may be the forgotten one faced in WC3. To find out what we need to about Yoggy, we need them to give more lore on the forgotten one. For all we know, we may have just fought part of him if even that. (Ibage (talk) 03:51, 28 April 2009 (UTC))


 * We can't be sure Yogg-Saron isn't one of "The Three", as he was really locked down on Ulduar. About the defences, the "computer" on Halls of Stone says it IS a physical corrupted, by a symbiotic infection . The "dragonflight's war" and other issues are consequences of the Old God's influence. Pudim17 (talk - contr) 18:02, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

"Analysis complete. There is partial corruption in the planet's life-support systems as well as complete corruption in most of the planet's defense mechanisms."

Let me show you my interpretation.

When the Titans left Azeroth, it was said that they empowered the now-known Dragon Aspects to watch over Azeroth's evolution.

But they also left Loken here as their "Prime Designate", meaning that he and the "titans' own perfect creations" are here to protect Azeroth. And as we know, they've failed (because of the Curse of Flesh, Yogg's corruption and so on, you know).

So, when Algalon refers to "planet's life-support systems" and its "partial corruption", he's reffering the Dragon Aspect (as they are not all corrupted), and when he speaks about the "planet's defense mechanisms" and its "complete corruption", he's reffering Loken and the other "perfect creations" the Titans left here to protect the planet they'd just "shapped".

Note: everytime I use quotation marks I am trying to refer something related to the Lore. Note2: I'm not fully fluent in english, sorry if I wrote something wrong. :)

I think he just surrenders to the Heroes (players) after seeing how determined are they to save their homeworld, even if it would cost their lives and those of everyone in Azeroth. Orisai (talk) 23:41, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Figured it out
Hey all, I sorta figured something out.

When Loken dies, he says that his death "heralds the end of this world." And it says in the article that Loken's death alerted Algalon. I think Loken was actually referring to Algalon there, since Algalon sends the code to the Titans to "re-originate" Azeroth.

Just a whee bit of food for thought. Toran Wildpaw of the Frenzyheart (talk) 19:28, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * This is about only thing we are sure about background of this encounter. But If Loken knew... Yogg Saron must have known... And yet he did nothing about it... perhaps Titans "reorigination" would have freed other prisoners... And titans are weakened... Sargeras's soul is banished, And it took all titans to bind the Three. Paerigos


 * The way Loken is talking (and the way the Archivum Console explained it), there wouldn't be any Yogg-Saron - or anyone else for that matter. The Lich King, the Old Gods, us, poof. Gone. Bye. See ya. There's reconstruction and then there's reconstruction after Armageddon. You do the math. *grin* --Joshmaul (talk) 04:57, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Loken was corrupted... so were all other four titanic watchers... You can not belive that Yogg Saron wouldn´t mine Titanic intentions about Algalon failsafe from their minds. Plans of old gods are beyond us. If you take an ideal conditions: Old God at peak of his power, then not even Aman´thul himself would managed to make his stand alone. Titans prevailed in creation because servants of Old goods were to weak to pose any threat and gods themselves were scarse in numbers.Paerigos

There's no proof that Yogg-Saron reads minds though. And, unless he specifically asks Loken about it (which he likely never did, as he couldn't of had the information to ask), he wouldn't know. 19:53, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * He is telepathic, as his wispers go to Howling Fjord and beyond, and his mind can be entered, but as far as I know there is no proof of him 'reading' the minds he controls. Consider this: If the titans can kill the Old Gods with the "reorigination", why were they unwilling to do that from the start? To not kill Azeroth? Why care if it dies if you are willing to kill it and start over later? This hole leads me to think Yoggy may have wanted it to happen as a plan of escape.-- 20:11, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * They can not kill them, they lack the power. It is like rock paper scizzors game. In "Well of Eternity" Krasus states that united power of five Aspects could act as a defence against the Three with little but probably existing chance of succes and yet they would be totally incapable to defend Azeroth against Sargeras. And yet a Single titan would probably be destroyed in one to one encounter with old god. Dragons are an example of Titans perfect creation- tottaly capable of dooing what they are supposed to do but but certainly weaker when confronted in area that doesn´t belong to them.

His despawn
Ok, so we know players have a one-hour window per lockout period to defeat him, starting upon first initiation of the encounter. BUT! Can the Evil Dude despawn during the encounter? Like: "ok 1 minute before he leaves, let's pull him!" and 1 minute later, Algalon waves bye-bye in the middle of the fight. 09:57, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. Once the timer is up, it's game over. --

Strategy.
Now that ensidia has opened up the floodgates for guilds downing this guy, I think it's time we get a general strategy posted here from a consensus of guilds who have defeated him.

Thesayan (talk) 17:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Black Hole information
I changed the information given at the end of the article. It is believed that stars that contain greater than three solar masses will collapse into a black hole; not ten solar masses. Can provide literary source if necessary. Rorken (talk) 18:59, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That is actually more belief than proven facts... when it comes to to singularities our mathematics fails. Ideas have their consistency but unless we will be abble to observe (better from larger distance at least 50 light years) there is little proof
 * Actually, you are both half right, Ive gone through and tried to correct it without overdoing the long words.

Split
Shouldn't this be split since we have his boss information and his biography on the same page? Hallowseve15 (talk) 14:00, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Definitely--Ashbear160 (talk) 14:04, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Most bosses have a biography, since they're not just faceless, information-less monsters. Algalon's is a single paragraph, which isn't nearly long enough to warrant a split. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 17:12, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed. -- 17:48, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * No need for a split. He is not as filled as Hakkar or Ragnaros.
 * 21:14, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Beginnings and Ends
Has anyone read the special comic issue: Beginnings and Ends? I believe there is lore behind him and what he does other than "observe" the universe. --Darksora110 (talk) 1:37, 11 January 2014
 * He looks at Azeroth and gives previews for future comics.-- 19:44, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, thought there was more of him than meets the eye. Oh well, we might see him in the near future. Who knows, only time will tell. --Darksora110 (talk) 1:50, 11 January 2014

Race
Chronicle says Algalon is part of the constellar race: To aid the Pantheon, Aman'Thul called upon a mysterious race known as the constellar. These celestial beings observed the many worlds ordered by the titans, staying vigilant for any sign of instability. When necessary, the constellar would initiate a fail-safe procedure to scour life from a world in the hopes of resetting its evolutionary process. --Aquamonkeyeg (talk)
 * A more important question: should we really be adding information from Chronicle before it's officially been released? -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 23:59, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
 * IMO, preview stuff released by Dark Horse or Amazon is fair game since it is available to all. We've already begun adding this with the art and other lore bits. I held off on editing the page because I believe there is a more direct mention of Algalon as a constellar elsewhere in Chronicle that isn't in these previews. From this part, it seems like the constellar weren't created by the titans, just employed. --Aquamonkeyeg (talk) 02:04, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, was that in a preview? I didn't recall seeing it and I knew that there's leaked images of the book going around that AREN'T official. But if it's from an official preview then yeah, it's definitely fair game. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 03:22, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * You can see it on Amazon. -Dusksworn (talk) 03:54, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * In this one. --Mordecay (talk) 09:13, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Algalon is also called a "Constellar" in Blizzard's "March Badness" post. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/20056283/march-badness-3-7-2016 User 250916 (talk) 15:35, 11 March 2016 (UTC)