Talk:Thalassian

Versus Darnassian
Is Thalassian actually different from Darnassian? --Blackmorsel
 * It is considered a different language, but might just be a dialect of Darnassian.


 * Different enough that they can't communicate with each other, except for a few words shared by both languages at least that's implied in the RPG, and online encyclopedia. But Thalassian is definitely derived from Darnassian.Baggins 13:50, 19 November 2006 (EST)
 * Not having read the RPG books, I'm not sure I can vouch for that. It's definately implemented as such in the game, but it might be that they would in fact be very alike. Not all things are kept logical in the game, for the simple reason that it would hurt gameplay. Bah, my arguement doesn't change anything anyway. :P --BioTronic 10:36, 21 November 2006 (EST)
 * Maiev and Tyrande had no difficulty communicating with Kael in Warcraft 3, even though they both obviously used Darnassian phrases such as "Ishnu dal dieb", which suggests that Darnassian and Thalassian aren't too different from each other. Paulus 00:42, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * They were likely using "common" in those moments (excepting the greetings). The night elves have no difficulty communicating with the humans and orcs either. It is said that most of these races widely know commmon according to the RPG. Warcraft Encyclopedia mentions that that there are differences between the two languages and that they don't share exact same definitions and words. RPG goes further to point out it would be rather difficult for the two races to communicate with each other if the individuals were limited to those two languages, and would have to learn each race's language if they intended to communicate with native languages.Baggins 01:02, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Kael could definetly speak Common, and it's likely that Tyrande could as well. For all we know, night elves have (or had) the ability to learn languages very quickly.-- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 01:39, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Ya, both Tyrande and Maiev know common according to shadow's and light. Of the two only Tyrande knows Thalassian. In anycase they were most likely using their knowledge of Common when speaking to Kael.Baggins 02:56, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Neptune's Moon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalassa_%28moon%29 Thalassa. Neptune's moon. Myaku 18:31, 28 April 2007 (EDT)

That's Greek for the sea. Maybe the High Elves have some kind of Greek influence. Mr.X8 00:49, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

This is perhaps the inspiration of the Name, as there are other Thalassians in Fantasy gech genres. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Thalassian_Slavers is an interesting use of the name as well, as their leader I quote from the page "The most vicious of the Thalassian slavers was known as the Blood Prince of Thalassia."

Thalassa seems most likely for the inspiration of the name, perhaps the relation should be mentioned? (the Moon, not the Pirates from Star Wars)

Anara'nel belore
Does "Anara'nel belore" translate to "By the power of the sun"? Kael says one or the other while useing the same spell, and Belore means 'sun'. -- 22:05, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

No way to know for sure, but your welcome to toss it into the speculation section.Baggins 20:55, 21 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I did, 'twas removed.-- 21:16, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Making a wild guess...
Considering what Commander Sarannis does (special attack) when she yells this, and the usual translation of the second component...I'm guessing "Band'or shorel'aran!" translates to something like "Buh-bye, sucker!" But that's mere speculation. 05:34, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Ugh, hopefully I am not too late to reply. Actually you dont need to make guesses, non-US/EU versions of WOW clients can actually see the translated text. For example, playing in WoW-TW will see this: (薩拉斯語)準備道別吧!, which roughly translate to "(Thalassian)Prepare to farewell!".(Source) Oh and btw, shorel'aran means farewell, that is no secret. Gspbeetle (talk) 16:26, 21 May 2009 (UTC)


 * That's genious! Any other examples? -- 07:00, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Which boss interests you most? Gspbeetle (talk) 15:23, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, all of them, really. For example, Kael'thas has several untranslated ones. -- 21:05, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * (p4, Taking matter into own hands) Balamore shanal = Prepare to die
 * (p4 summon phonex) Anara'nel belore = For the sun (pretty obvious actually)
 * (Flamestrike when Zombie mode at MgT) Felomin ashal! = Fire consumes!
 * Just tell me if you need screenshots, at least its not too hard to find a team to kill Kael for mounts. Gspbeetle (talk) 09:44, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Shaza'kiel
Valeera says this while possessed by a demonic entity. It is Eredun, not Thalassian, like the rest of the proceeding phrases. -- 00:37, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

EDIT: This goes for the following phrases as well:


 * Anakh kyree! = Miserable insect!
 * Katra zil shukil! = Suffer and perish!

Please stop adding them to Thalassian, as they are Eredun. This is not evident in the preview, but is mentioned by a character in the full comic. -- 12:29, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

San'Layn
Does anyone have any idea what it means?
 * Does it have to mean something? It's probably just a cool name. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:42, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

It may simply be Thalassian for "Darkfallen"?--MyrionStarblade (talk) 01:20, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

The Twin Blades
Anybody know what Qul'delar and/or Quel'serrar mean? If so, shouldn't they be posted in the translated section or if not then in the untranslated? On another Thalassian note has anybody notcied that the Blood Mages on Warcraft III give some Thalassian phrases, anybody paid attention to what they are saying yet? I heard "fallah" I believe in one of the phrases. Galexgan (talk) 02:52, June 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * "Quel'Serrar" means "the High Blade" and "Quel'Delar" means "the Sister Blade", which is odd because it is the "Quel" part that means "high". The blood elven quotes should be at Quotes of Warcraft III/Human Alliance.-- 03:41, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Ah! Another flaw than the Quel'delar meaning "sister blade"!! Quel'Zaram is stated to mean "High Blade" in the translated words so how in the world can Quel'serrar mean that as well unless "High blade" and "Sister blade" are just nicknames for the items.... Really weird. Perhaps a flaw in Blizzards judgement or like I had said, there are other names, the real names of the weapons. Galexgan (talk) 09:16, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Sin'dorei and Quel'dorei
How can sin'dorei mean children of the blood, while quel'dorei means high elves? Shouldn't then sin'dorei mean blood elves, or quel'dorei children of the hight or something? Means dorei 'elves' or 'children (of the)'? (Luxor (talk) 18:11, 15 January 2011 (UTC))


 * "Sin" means blood, "quel" means high, and "dorei" means either 'elves' or 'children of'. Sin'dorei can mean blood elves, children of the blood, or children of the bloodline. Quel'dorei can mean either high elves, or children of the high (noble birth). That last one is basically a rewording of the word highborne. See here.-- 22:15, 15 January 2011 (UTC)


 * "Dorei" literally means "borne". So, sin'dorei is more literally "bloodborne" while quel'dorei is "highborne". The apostrophe which occurs in sin'dorei and quel'dorei, but not in kaldorei might perhaps alter the meaning slightly, but not in a way I can explain. --Oponyxal (talk) 19:40, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Anar
النار transcribed al'nar, actually read with a silent "l" an'nar, in Arabic means fire. it really hit me when i heard "Anar'endal dracon" for the first time.

though here it's translated as breath as in "by the breath of the dragon"

in other instances the word is translated as "Light" Anar'alah = "By the light" Anar'alah belore = "By the light of the sun"

Then associated with the sun about summoning a phoenix Anara'nel belore

Sindassi
Do we really need an entire section about how the blood elf language used to go by a different name, how that name is not canon, and how that first name might have been inspired by Tolkien? The single trivia note we had before seemed to suffice just fine. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 03:26, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I thought that completely nuking the Sindassi page and every links, instead of simply using them as redirects, was overkill. Notably because the Sindassi's page history itself is the only proof that it ever existed. Don't really care about the Tolkien stuff Xporc (talk) 09:15, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, but I don't really see much reason to expand it on this page from a single-line note to its own section. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 17:28, 22 September 2019 (UTC)