Talk:Magocrats

I do not dislike this page. However, I think that magocrat is a word for a member of the Kirin Tor-as-senate. The Six were originally the secret leaders of this senate. In WotLK, the Six became the public leaders of the Kirin Tor, which became viewed not as the government of Dalaran, but as Dalaran as a faction. There is a lore reason for this later shift, but I do not think that the magocrats were ever a separate era.-- 19:01, 8 October 2013 (UTC)


 * However, the Magocrats were there long before the Kirin Tor. In fact, the Kirin Tor began as a sect dedicated to research and catalogue magic; the same function it has when Antonidas was 12 and a Ruling Council (the Six) was in charge of the city.


 * We don't know when did the KT turn from a research sect into the Magus Senate that it is today. --Cemotucu (talk) 19:13, 8 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Then that needs to be cited. Edit: Oh wait, it is. First Guardian. My fault for not paying attention to the mangas.-- 19:20, 8 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Don't worry. Also, the text of the article can be improved. PS: Also, the things I mentioned about Antonidas and the Ruling Council are noted in The Archmage Antonidas - Part 1 ingame book.--Cemotucu (talk) 19:28, 8 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, one of the first things that we knew about Dalaran from WarCraft II was "Dalaran is a small, magocratic nation ruled by a conclave of Wizards known as the Kirin Tor."-- 00:57, 9 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I know. Dalaran was described as a "thriving magocracy" under the rule of the Magocrats. The form of government (magocracy or rule of the magi) is the same, but the rulers changed (even when all can be considered magocrats). First there were lord archmagi, then a Ruling Council, then a Senate AND a Ruling Council. See the difference? --Cemotucu (talk) 12:52, 9 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes. Now the similarly named and overlapping concepts link to each other.-- 14:06, 9 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Sure they are linked. It was the Magocrats who set the precedent of a magocracy, as far as we know.--Cemotucu (talk) 14:45, 9 October 2013 (UTC)