Talk:Avatar of Sargeras

Merge?
Is this page really needed?--Mordecay (talk) 19:08, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes. The Ultimate Visual Guide confirms its existence.-- 19:15, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Yep, but does it need its own page? Why not merge it with Sargeras?--Mordecay (talk) 19:50, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * They are sort of two different characters. So to avoid confusion, we should keep them separated.(Shammiesgun (talk) 08:29, 12 June 2014 (UTC))

Aldrachi avatar
Tome of Fel Secrets, Part Seven: "No one knows for sure what form Sargeras took to confront Toranaar. Some nathrezim records say that the Legion's colossal ruler infused a sliver of his power into an avatar and dispatched it to the aldrachi stronghold. Whatever the truth, it is certain that he called for Toranaar to join the Legion." Given the clear uncertainty of that statement, I don't think it's correct to have the lead section infer that several avatars are confirmed to have existed and a section saying on no uncertain terms that Sargeras did create an avatar for the aldrachi homeworld, only to then in the next sentenct have the text contradict the previous statement and say that it's unknown if it actually was an avatar or not. Since it's not confirmed and the possibility has only been hinted at, I think it's better to mostly stick to what's known to be true (i.e, Sargeras only created the one avatar now located in the Tomb) with a note mentioning that there's an unconfirmed and possibly dubious in-universe source hinting at the possibility of more avatars, rather than treat the information from said in-universe source as 100% true and warp the article around that. One could still point out that Toranaar's ability to inflict a wound on Sargeras suggests that it was indeed an avatar and not the real deal, but in that case I'd personally say it should be under a speculation section. -- 14:56, 7 February 2017 (UTC)


 * If some nathrezim believed it could be one of his avatars, it means he did have (or could create) other avatars. Otherwise they wouldn't believe that. The question is not whether or not he had several, it's whether Toranaar faced one or the real Sargeras. Agreed on the speculation section. -- MyMindWontQuiet (talk) 15:50, 7 February 2017 (UTC)


 * I actually didn't consider that, and that's a fair point, but we still only know for certain about the Avatar he sent to fight Aegwynn. Him having the ability to create multiple avatars doesn't necessarily guarantee that he chose to create more than one, so unless/until we know for certain if there ever were more than one I think we should stick to talking about the one we do know existed/exists. That's just my opinion, though. -- 16:58, 7 February 2017 (UTC)


 * I guess we could keep it like it was (plural) and then say that we know of only one, like in other articles ? -- MyMindWontQuiet (talk) 17:44, 7 February 2017 (UTC)