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WC3 info
I am not against your mass adding of Warcraft III information, on the contrary, I am all for it, but can you please keep it slightly separate from other information (RPG, WoW, ect.) and add proper citation to it using Ref game? Thank you.-- 23:44, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, no problem, i will use that template if you want. I'll see my contribution and try to cite everything i have added. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 00:05, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Fanart
Re your question, the general convention is that fanart is all right on a page as long as it isn't in an infobox or headlining. If massive amounts of fanart are being posted (and we usually only reproduce fanart Blizzard has already displayed), a separate gallery (see Sylvanas Windrunner as an example) can be created. In the case of Scourge, however, I think it's fine to leave it there for now, as it's the only one on the page.-- Ragestorm (talk · contr) 21:50, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks for the answer Ragestorm, I didn't knew about that. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 22:15, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

The Citations
Ohh ok. But I'm still not sure how to add it. Crimsonknight17

Thanks
Thanks for the help --Crimsonknight17 (talk) 07:08, 1 December 2008 (UTC)Crimsonknight17


 * Thanks for the help with Notable humans! Seric 22

Fix link
Cool! I missed that. Rolandius ( talk  -  contr ) 11:25, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Dog citations
The jackal and wild dog are cited at the top of the page. The sentence is a bit wrong I think as the source does not say "They include small wild canines including, coyotes, jackals, and wild dogs." but says that coyotes, jackals, and wild dogs can use the same stats as a dog if you want. Unless that is supposed to mean they are dogs? I don't think so. As for the white hound, I am not sure who added it or where it comes from. Rolandius ( talk  -  contr ) 11:36, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the answer, then I will add the citations to the jackals and wild dogs to avoid confusion, also thanks to the rename you made to the article they can be included. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 17:51, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Warcraft 3 quests
Include any information you have about them in their respective campaign articles. 23:05, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I didn't knew if it was right to leave them in the mission article or make their own article. Now on I will add the quest to their mission acticle. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 00:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

"The Betrayer" image
I just checked the Sons of the Storm... though it resembles Sargeras more than Kil'jaeden.


 * Maybe what we can do is to make an article for The Deceiver, I remember seeing some mobs and places in WoW with that title and then we can add that image. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 04:08, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

3rd hand citations
Regarding your comment about adding citations for Sylvanas Windrunner, I understand your perspective, but technically citing content that points to pages on Wowpedia is actually worse, if those pages don't have references themselves. BlizzPlanet is a Blizzard authorized lore source. If you're going to point to pages at Wowpedia as sources, like The Dark Lady, those pages need to have external source citations and refs. -- Fandyllic  (talk · contr) 1:03 PM PST 29 Mar 2009


 * Ok. After cheking blizzplanet I see that you're right, if we link to Blizzplanet in the missions articles the people can see the full transcript of the mission that wowwiki lacks. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 20:46, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not saying that you should link to Blizzplanet articles, but if you link to local Wowpedia articles, make sure they link to Blizzplanet or somewhere that might be considered an external source. My concern with your refs were that some of them pointed to missing articles or articles without external sources. You do good stuff, so keep doing it. --[[Image:gengar orange 22x22.png]] Fandyllic  (talk &middot; contr) 4:25 PM PST 29 Mar 2009


 * Yeah, I think I get it. My mistake was that I sourced a link that hadn't the information cited and even red links. Next time I'll check if it is linked to an external link with the transcription of the mission and if it doesn't have I will add it. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 04:16, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Link
Thanks for the link correction, I missed that one I guess. Rolandius ( talk  -  contr ) 05:57, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Loot Tables
If you're referring to the loot tables for the Black Temple trash mobs, then I removed them because:
 * They were out of date compared to the data from other websites.
 * They didn't drop any noticeable unique loot (trash epics don't count because most of the trash mobs there can drop the same loot).
 * If the table was to be updated, it would require an immense amount. For example, Wowhead.com has records of the Aqueous Lord dropping roughly 200 items. And since the values would constantly keep changing, I figured there was no point in keeping them.

I'm sory if you feel like I messed it up, but I thought it was appropriate to remove. Hope you understand. Reddwarf1928 ( talk ) 03:52, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks for the explanation, if they were out of date then I think you made the right thing. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 04:10, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Lost ones
Ok we have a problem, and its not your fault as best I can tell. Basically what's happened is that huge sections of information have been stripped from the article, info relating to Lands of Conflict and Manual of Monsters. Citations have been broken, and information has been taken out of context of those sources. Ok, while the info from those sources and some of the other Harborage quests don't overlap perfectly, part of this has to do with the fact that Lands of Conflict and Manual of Monsters was discussing the Fallow Sanctuary Lost Ones, not the Harborage. It was discussing the crazy ones only, they had enough sense to be able to call themselves "Lost Ones" but not enough sanity to interact with other races peacefully. They were violent and aggressive attacking anyone (obviously not the Harborage draenei). Basically someone came by stripped out the details and tried to merge the two accounts, without the understanding that previous source wasn't even touching on Harborage history. The info needs to be reinserted, citations fixed, and seperated into seperate sections if need be. Essentially the same situation that occurred centaur and Man'ari eredar pages. I suppose since the LoC and MoM info was specifically categorized under "draenei" it should probably be moved to a subsection of that article, with links back to the lost ones article, and only the "Lost Ones" specific referenced inserted in that article.Baggins (talk) 22:20, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I see, you have made a good solution by adding the another background in the draenei article, moving Draenei Lost Ones to just Lost Ones and Broken draenei to just Broken would also help to clarify everything, and I suggest a final solution, we can also separte the tribe called Lost Ones from the race with the same name; something similar to what I made with Tuurem and Tuurem (Lost Ones). Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 23:18, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, one more issue can "Lost one" be lower case? Most examples that I can find its in an npc title. Lost Ones could get its own page I suppose, but I'm not sure there is enough info for more than a stub... and stubs should be avoided.Baggins (talk) 23:26, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * MoM and LoC put uppercase, and all of the quests I checked in WoW are also uppercase. And about the stub, I can work in it, if you want I can start with information of LoC and MoM and then update it with the quests of WoW. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 23:41, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, if you think there is enough to make an article, go ahead. Lost Ones, should suffice (use inpage disambig).Baggins (talk) 23:55, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the tip :) RalOrtTal (talk) 04:01, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

RE: Aprendix 3
I'm combining all the texts into one single article. Don't worry, the information will be back. -- 18:18, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for the answer. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 18:25, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Appendix Three again: I'm sorry about that; I realized that the way you formatted it was the best way and I take no credit in reverting it to your version. I added the tocright template to it instead of your Table of Contents solution, and instead shortened down the deamons header. -- 10:54, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Braelyn Firehand
In Cenarius' Legacy, she mentions being from Jaedenar and a "master", so she appears to be one of the Shadow Council.-- 01:58, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * How could I miss that?! Sorry for that and thanks for the source :) Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 02:09, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

RE: Refgame template
I don't know about you, but I think that using the template for information from World of Warcraft is redundant; as you know this is wiki is mostly about World of Warcraft, it would be usually used for information from the RTS games and others. -- 15:26, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * More or less, yes. -- 15:43, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Kael'thas' Forces
"Defeated by heros of Outland"? Will there be another page saying he dragged himself off to Magisters Terrace then? Other than that, yay for the new page. TherasTaneel (talk) 00:43, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Just a note
Do not forget that "Warmaul clan/tribe" is not a "proper name". When you create the article with this name, you create the article "tribe" under the namespace "Warmaul clan".

22:38, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, I noticed it shortly after I moved it. Sorry for the problems. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 22:44, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Orcish / Common Dictionary. -- 22:48, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Yep, It should go for a Orcish-Common Dictionary or something close to its in-game name.
 * Because you got an un-needed "< Orcish" under it. Same for Common / Orcish Dictionary.
 * 22:50, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Harpy citation
You ask about what i ment with WL2. That means Warcraft: Legends Volume 2, more exacly Miles to Go. Noobi666 (talk) 11:58, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

why?
why did you delete the night elves from the "other races" section of the burning legion when it clearly shows in the "command structure" section a night elve?- grumbletroll

About Akama
As written on Illidan_Stormrage_(tactics), Akama says after you kill Illidan: "The Light will fill these dismal halls once again. I swear it." hinting he took control of the Temple. I have never done the raid myself, and I doubt it becomes a friendly place afterwards, but it seems that he is the new master. Is it speculation?-- 22:17, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I see, neither I have done it, well I think it's basically telling what was put in the article. But I think it should be added back with the template, specifing this quote of Akama. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 22:39, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Hm... gOurra was against using ref game to cite WoW... Your thoughts?-- 22:42, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I think that he was against using it just for quests, but not for quotes. I'm not sure about it though. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 22:54, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I think a normal " " would suffice here. -- 22:57, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Done, I couldn't add the reference in the box at it's below the reflist, but I added the citation to the biography section. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 23:24, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Illidan
Demon is not a race. It is a creature type. I agree that he is a kind of demon, but that is not his race just like someone like Archimonde's race is not demon. Illidan is a Night elf hybrid of something. That is like changing everyone with "Race=Human" to "Race=Humanoid" ins't it? Rolandius ( talk  -  contr ) 05:14, 18 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, I realized this after cleaning up the demon article, the encyclopedia considers him an "Unique demon", so I'll add that to the articles. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 19:49, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

RE: Removing captain and lady words
Not only, but all, many exemple already existed, I'm just keeping up. :)

19:27, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

permaban discussion
Wierd... Usually I get a "you are stomping on someone else's edit" message. I didn't get one that time. Fortunately, SWM saw it. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 23:29, 21 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Earliest ratcatcher edit: Feb 1 2007.  "But that's not important right now." -   --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 23:35, 21 July 2009 (UTC)


 * About the first commentary, very strange indeed, I hadn't noticed but just thanks to SWM who saw it and corrected it quickly. About the earliest edit I didn't knew, as the welcoming wasn't automatic at that time the date isn't accurate, thanks for the clarification. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 23:42, 21 July 2009 (UTC)


 * No worries. And, I don't know that the welcoming is automatic even today.  Pcj might know.  --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 23:55, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

RE: Break line
There is no "real" difference from using " " and " "

The second one comes from XHTML, the last norm of web programming: an opened tag must be closed, but br is an opening and a closing tag, so it gives a " ". That's why it's the form to use. Now " " works, because HTML (old one) has been built to be very permissive.

Same thing goes for the img tag: 

Being a programmer myself, that's why you see me switch one for another quite often xD

21:19, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Grr! conversations in two places...  I suppose for immediate feedback, it works, but  every now and then you get a goob like me... --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 22:59, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Licensing fanfic
The fanfic wasn't a choice on the upload-licensing option so I didn't know it existed, do you know a list somewhere for which exist? TherasTaneel (talk) 23:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * and...by the way...even though people might do whatever to an image, isn't it always copyright of the original owner? TherasTaneel (talk) 23:41, 25 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure about this. I just knew that it had to be marked as fanfic but about the copyright I don't know. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 16:47, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

What is it?
Do you know what this creature is called? The Far Seer in Warcraft III can use the spell "Feral Spirit" to summon a Spirit Wolf, Dire Wolf, or Shadow Wolf depending on level. The confusing part is that none of those three are blue like in that image, yet the image is on the same entry as Feral Spirit. Rolandius ( talk  -  contr ) 04:55, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Pluralization
They can be if it is the name of their clan, tribe, race, etc. For example, Blizzard says "Dark Irons", Wildhammers", Bronzebeards", etc. when speaking of them in sentences in lore. Rolandius ( talk  -  contr ) 03:55, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Picture
Hi, I actually don't remember exactly where I got it, but I do remember it was somewhere on the blizzard.com/blizzcon/ page.

Night Elf vs. Troll argument
I understand your point, and I don't want to get banned either

But I warn you, if this develops into a debate war, we could have a problem ;P

On the same page that you sent me, it also provides a Night Elf opposing argument. On the page that I sent you is conflicting information, which means that it could be the fault of Blizzard, and neither of us. On the page discussing the Furbolgs, it says that they originally shared the forest with Night Elves, bringing us further back in time, past the time of the Titans, possibly. The reason why this is possible is because there is no sure date for the creation of the Night Elves, and the first Sundering is only described as 10,000 years before Warcraft I. The Well of Eternity page states that the old gods sapped energy from the well (according to some sources, of course), so it is a possibility. The Troll page says that the creation of the Night Elves from the Trolls is a theory that ultimately has not been proven.

P.S. Sorry for the earlier post. I forgot to make a new title.

P.S.2 There is no evidence (from Blizzard or elsewhere) that the Trolls were Nocturnal.


 * There's no evidence that they weren't and changed their habits. Blizzard has deliberately left the whole issue ambiguous. Neither of you are on track for a ban, but continued hostilities will result in such an action.
 * Incidentally, the general race descriptions have since all been contradicted or retconned. Generally, the newest lore, even when it isn't explicitly stated, overrides the old one, though errors do happen. -- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 23:58, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Cenarius
Didn't someone confirm that while the Tauren think they were the first, the night elves were actually the first? Then again, someone probably retconned that out later...-- Ragestorm (talk · contr) 00:03, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Now that you mention it I remember, it is the citation in the Cenarius article, here is the link: . Maybe the tauren article needs some changes, but I don't have any of the War of the Ancient Trilogy books, so I can't help much. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 00:20, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * No mention or indication of Tauren druids in WotA. They basically show up with no discussion on classes or culture. The only major druidic contradiction is that it's the only source that suggests Malfurion is not the first mortal druid (Cenarius mentions others), while most others agree that he was either the first ever or the first night elf druid. I think the Tauren having earlier druids might have been an RPG addition that was rectified in a blue post or something. -- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 01:15, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, so the novel doesn't bring much info. I'll see if I can source and change that section to make it more consice. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 06:02, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

If what you posted is correct...
Then this pushes the origins of the Night Elves further back in time, or pushes the evolution of Druidism forward in time, making it one (if not the) newest form of Magic in World of Warcraft.

Blizzard really needs to get their lore straight.


 * Well, I can tell that the info I put is sourced, so, it should technically be considered correct; but, as all people, I can made mistakes.
 * And I don't really get what you were trying to say about the newest magic in World of Warcraft; I'm not sure if it is, but I don't think that this is contradicted in any other source. If you are talking about the night elf-tauren first to known druidism retcon that's what I am talking about with Ragestorm in the above discussion. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 06:02, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

In response
On clicking the Kaldorei link, it mentioned that they could be Dark Elves (non trolls), and early concept maps had "Dark Elf Lands" near mount Hyjal. Also, a fourth elven dialect is spoken on Mount Hyjal. I'll just let you read it: Dark elf

Also, from an evolutionary standpoint, the Trolls do not posess noticeable Night Vision, like the Night elves, and seemingly the Draenei (sorry if I spell Draenei wrong, their name confuses me). On top of that, some changes were just too extreme to happen (2 toes and 3 fingers to 5 and 5? Really...) Also, I have read that the Trolls do indeed worship a Sun God, and the Night Elves do not.


 * Dark elves are almost certainly an earlier developmental name for the night elves- there is no way of reliably including them in any major lore theories. The changes wrought to turn troll into night elf could quite easily have been that extreme; recall that the Well of Eternity is essentially liquid magic- there's no way of knowing what it could do. Night elves don't worship a sun god, but trolls do, so they can't be related? By that logic, the Romans cannot be considered a part of western civilization because they worshipped a sun god and modern western nations don't. Religious and cultural practices are rarely a good indicator of what cultures led into others. -- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 20:30, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, Ragesmtorm is very complete, I just like to add that I had read the dark elf article long ago, but didn't add that info to the discussion for the reason Ragestorm said. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 06:02, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Forsaken using the light
(my bad on the signing)

The official source stating that the forsaken "cannot use the light" is the RPG

None of the source you listed are official

[1] At what point does it say that the npc is using the light? It is a holy priest (forgotten shadow). [2] Healing =/= using the light. Again using the forgotten shadow to heal him. No where does it say you are using "the light" to heal the npc. Re-read the forgotten shadow article. It talks about knowing the light many times. This simply means learning about the virtues of the light and the healing arts. It also explicitly says forsaken cannot use the light, they just learn of it. [3]TGC is not an official source. They can do whatever then want in it.

If you want to specifically counter info with a cited official source you had better use one of your own. I will continue to delete that line until you can show me where any official Blizzard source says "Forsaken can use the light". Pyrolight (talk) 23:54, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Changed to meet in the middle
You misunderstand what "knowing the light means". It is stated in the "Forgotten Shadow" article as understanding the nature of it. Never does it say understanding means using. The Forsaken heal through the forgotten shadow. You are basically saying one bar of the information contradicts the other. That doesn't make sense. You can't have the forsaken using the light to heal, then in the same article it saying they can't use it at all.

As I say you have to show where in that quest text is says using. As example. I could understand Islam, doesn't mean I believe in it or practice (use) it.

I left the last source as fair is fair but I did qualify that it is not considered canonical.

Mainly I just don't want people saying "look here is proof the forsaken can use the light" and it's official (when it is not) and also when there is a cited official source saying no they cannot.

Pyrolight (talk) 00:04, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Orcs
Why are you not using the Orcish crest but a 3-D Orc in the portrait? BobNamataki (talk) 19:34, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Elite Footman
This isnt Elite Footman or this. I dont know where you see these elite footman. Real elite footman. I think that portrait is form Admiral's Elite Guard or image of Capitan Thornby as he was stationed outside of Vol'jin's new base camp. Snake011 (talk) 21:30, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

RE: Elite Footman
Yes agread. There are 2 tipes of these solgers in 2 maps. So i will use them bought in artice. Snake011 (talk) 21:57, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

RE: Ability icons
Hi Benitoperezgaldos. I see that icons on page. Those are same icons joined together as Hero's have them on Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos and Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne. I just refreshing them for best qualitlity since i notice that many users use pictures with low quality on pages. Snake011 (talk) 18:13, October 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * I am having trouble finding 2 of abilityes so since you are helping me add this ability icon Force of Nature in Cenarius and this

True Sight in Magtheridon/W3 Stats. Tks again Snake011 (talk) 02:26, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Maps
"This image is from the continent, not of the world." Which was known to be Azeroth at that time. But it's been moved to the Eastern Kingdoms‎ maps instead. TherasTaneel (talk) 18:12, October 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * The reason that I removed that image is because, if we start adding images like that, then it would become like before I separate the articles and people would then merge them again when they are supposed to be different things. Besides, we don't really know what does that image intended to be, as Azeroth was only used for the kingdom and not for the world nor the Eastern Kingdoms in Warcraft: Orcs & Humans. I suggest to move it to the article about the kingdom of Azeroth as Orcs & Humans actually refered to the kingdom and not to the other terms. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 18:26, October 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * hmm, you're probably right, either note the kingdom of Azeroth in the image discription in its current location, or move it, you decide. TherasTaneel (talk) 18:36, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks with the assistance on my page Server:Bloodscalp US/Talvok in fixing those Links. TeeSon5 (talk)

Azeroth on user pages
One question...are you just guessing that all of those users were referring to the planet when they linked to Azeroth? Don't see any reason to change it for them unless you know for sure. Thanks. -- 20:37, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * I know it's not really my place to barge in on a conflict that I have nothing to do with. However, I've somewhat reviewed these changes and they seem, to me, proper-- proper of course referring to the fact that specific usage of Azeroth meant the planet and he rightfully corrected it. However, I am not the authors of these pages so I wouldn't know 100%; I am just going by assumptions and common sense. Thats my 2 cents. TeeSon5 (talk) 01:26, November 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * We'll make a proper busybody of ya yet, TeeSon! Once you have an oar, every conversation looks like a mountain stream... :) --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 20:20, November 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that the main thrust of Pcj's comment was to the effect that what is generally acceptable to do to someone else's user page is strictly limited. Ben's change skirts that limit (along the path of "it's okay to change links to redirect pages most of the time").  While it's probably OK (IMO), it is still marginal.  --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 20:25, November 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Good to see other people's opinions. I want to tell that I have done this to incentivate the use of the correct link. And I don't think is wrong as the disambiguation template suggest that you do it: "If an internal link led you here, you may wish to change the link to point directly to the intended article.". And although I understand that the userspace shouldn't be modified without asking to the person, I consider that what I made was correct as it doesn't change the subject of the users' articles. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 04:06, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Goblin Project
If you start the Goblin project I'll help out. By the way, do you know how I can advertise my roleplaying project? BobNamataki (talk) 15:59, November 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, the goblins lore is so big that I don't know where to start, but when I do, I'll tell you :)
 * And about your project, I really don't know where to advertise it. Because, iirc, you have already done that in the forums, so I don't know another way. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 16:58, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Playstyle
Do you pve, pvp or rp? I'm looking for people for my rp project. BobNamataki (talk) 16:38, November 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * What I most like and do is PvE. I don't really RP, just sometimes jokingly with other guys. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 17:01, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Warcraft: Legends Volume 1, The Journey
Just wanted to congratulate you for your great work. Already saw the new articles and the edits you did and I'm very satisfied with them. It's great to know someone got to write something about Legends; so far, I was the only one making articles for it. So, that's all, congratulations for the good work ;). I think I could get some inspiration and finish editing those I left half-made of Warrior:Divided, but better another day xD.--Lon-ami (talk) 21:23, November 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks :) I'm glad when people like my work. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 21:26, November 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * A good work always deserves to be encouraged. Also, if it wasn't for you, no one would have ever created those articles; that, you can be sure.
 * Anyway, as you'll have noticed, I added every single mentioned characters to the lists of the first 2 volumes' stories. The next 3, I'm not sure if I've some missing. I wasn't able to get those volumes :S.
 * So yeah, the character articles are the only missing thing; and if you don't stop editing like mad, then they won't be a problem anymore xDDD.
 * If you need any kind of help, just ask ;) (although I'm not sure I'll be able to be active, those damn exams).--Lon-ami (talk) 21:43, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * I hope I can continue to edit as I am doing now, today and yesterday are my free days, so I'm not sure if I can keep this up. But if I need your help I'll tell you ;) Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 21:58, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to the Watchdogs!
You now have patroller rights! . 22:21, November 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * Good to hear that :) Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 00:54, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Concerning Mogor the Ogre Mage
What's up Benitoperezgaldos? Yeah, actually the game doesn't have him as a unique unit. In the very first level of the BTDP Orc campaign, the mission briefing states that Mogor is a renegade Ogre Mage that is holding Grom Hellscream captive and is in control of the Laughing Skull Clan. You must kill him and the Death Knights he has captured. The briefing states him as an Ogre Mage, but ingame he is just a no name plain Ogre. I added him in the Warcraft II units section as what he is supposed to be according to the lore. JeremiahJohnson (talk) 01:26, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Echo Isles
Very well, I wasn't aware I removed an Image, although the info that I had in that page was true, if i cannot add that in, will you please (the 3.3.3 retaking of it).

Lost Ones
Oh, it was just the spelling and grammar that was the bigger issue.

As for ref templates, I'm just phasing out ref book and ref rpg. We don't need templates that heavy for this wiki. I'll likely put some documentation about how to cite books, manuals, and RPG guides on T:Ref and then update WW:Citation at some other point. I may or may not announce this. :3 --Sky (t · c) 06:13, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Quick re Blightcaller
That one I see no reason not to put back, though it would be nicer if it was integrated better. It was kind of an iffy removal on my part. --Sky (t · c) 19:38, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Your opinion is desired
Benito, you're a regular editor (though you've dropped off in the past month or so), so I just wanted to make sure you were aware that Wowpedia is considering leaving Wikia. Please comment if you have any opinions - thanks! -- 21:28, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Pcj, thanks for the advice. I'm currently busy with my job and studies, so I can't edit so much as before. I'll try to give my opinion when I have time. Benitoperezgaldos (talk – contribs) 23:47, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, no sweat, focus on what's important. -- 23:47, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

How do you do Warcraft 1 screenshots at high resolution without menus etc?
Hi, I saw your File:Temple_of_the_Damned.png (compare to mine: img819.imageshack.us/img819/6172/templeofthedamned.png and was wondering, how do you do Warcraft 1 screenshots at high resolution without menus etc? Or did you stitch it together from a bunch of screenshots in photoshop or something? Thanks for any info :)

Might be good to post the info on the wiki for others, especially if you know how to do the same for the other games! I have only just been trying them out cos I was curious about the background story behind world of warcraft! --Kittymew (talk) 16:31, 30 December 2010 (UTC)