Talk:Frostborn

Frost?
Does the term "frost dwarf" indicate that their skin is made of ice? Just like the iron dwarves' skin is made of iron?--WoWWiki-Odolwa (talk) 13:47, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * We have no clue, like i said in the article they may have been earthen who adapted to the cold, but there is a frostborn who isnt blue. forgot his name, but still they may just be that way due to the cold of northrend effecting them, like how taunka are "winter tauren"-- 13:42, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Frost dwarf
Other than the summon frost dwarf spirit spells is there any use of this term in game, or do all the quests only make reference to the term "frostborn"?Baggins (talk) 23:52, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok I found the quest that makes the single reference to "frost dwarf". The quote is from Brann's pov rather than from the frostborn. I'd suggest that its the same kind of descriptive term as the Horde quests leading to the taunka which describe them as "winter tauren". No reason to have two pages for the same race. Its easy to note alternative names. From the frostborn's pov they seem to only call themselves frostborn, much like the taunka refers to themselves as the taunka.Baggins (talk) 00:44, 8 March 2009 (UTC)


 * "Race of frost dwarves", think of this in the same way as Sandfury trolls being sand trolls/desert trolls. Sandfury trolls are the only expamples of their type thus it becomes redundant to say that sandfury trolls are a race of sand trolls.


 * Flesh trolls are said to be made up of parts from multiple types of "northrend giants" but its been decided to delete the article because only one fleshy type northrend giant exists (storm giants). Unless you count vrykul there really aren't any other fleshy giants in northrend.


 * Since there is only one race of frostborn, and no other known races it becomes redundant to mention that they are a race of frost dwarves, when they are also described as dwarves in the game as well. The page also specifies that frostborn are also known as frost dwarves thus making it furtherly redundant the paragraph to say "frost dwarves are a race of frost dwarves. Unless more frost dwarf races appear there simply is no reason to make the paragraphs sound redundant and repetitive.Baggins (talk) 18:30, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Glorthal Stiffbeard
Yeah, it seems trivial, but I still think this is a point needing of attention. The NPC quest giver Glorthal Stiffbeard is clearly supposed to be a Frostborn/frost dwarf. But his skin colour and beard don't match those of Frost Dwarves, yet he has the runic/jewelled marking on his forehead like the frost dwarves. So is there any explanation as to why he's essentially a hybrid? Was it an oversight on the developer's part using a wrong coloured model? Has he perhaps succumbed more to the Curse of Flesh? Or what? MegaNerd18 (talk) 01:09, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Frost dwarf and Frostborn split
Same as the stuff with Wildhammer dwarf and Wildhammer clan, there's been a distinction made between the two. We decided on the Dwarf page to keep them labeled as Frost dwarf rather than Frostborn, and they're referred to multiple times as being the race WITHIN the faction, rather than the faction being the whole name for the entire race. This was also brought up for the new Ankoan race, that if they're stated to be 'Deep Jinyu' as the model files state and Ankoan isn't the name of their race, rather their faction, they'd be split, even if the articles are short for each.--Berenal (talk) 07:21, 28 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Well at least this one wouldn't require too much work Xporc (talk) 07:43, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't really see the point. One article would be 99% of the existing article, and the other would say virtually nothing besides "this faction exists" since the rep doesn't actually do anything in-game. There's really nothing to be gained from splitting them apart from semantics. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 08:22, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * It's a matter of accuracy over semantics, honestly. If the pages needed to be kept together for whatever reason, there needs to be a distinction made between the fact that it's a faction of frost dwarves, not that frostborn is interchangeable.--Berenal (talk) 17:24, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Are there ant frost dwarves that aren't Frostborn? --Dark T Zeratul (talk) 00:07, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
 * There are a couple of Frostborn animals that are not frost dwarves, for what it's worth Xporc (talk) 07:07, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Nightfallen and The Nightfallen have separate pages, and it's potentially suggest for the Ankoan page spiting in two. Mrforesttroll (talk) 15:58, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Pages should be split because it makes sense for the page, not just because similar pages were split. If there's not enough information for two articles and the subjects aren't so different than they can't be conflated, there's little reason to split them. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 16:58, 3 May 2019 (UTC)