Talk:Pandaren Empire

Why was the Pandaren April Fools section readded without a comment? As already stated in the page the RPG section is just a rewording of and an update of the information found in the April Fools joke. So basicly we now have the same info twice on this page and the April fools section on this page and on the April Fools page.--LemonBaby (talk) 10:17, 27 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Wowpedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. Edit summaries are not a good place for discussion. It only seems that the RPG section is a rewording. It is two similar bits picked out. I put that comment there, not expecting that it would be used against itself. The April Fools info is fully transcribed, but I feel that it should be distributed to its respective topics as well. Both the RPG and the April Fools bits are useless, but they show the evolution of the concept, and used to be all the lore that we had.-- 15:50, 27 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I see your point, but the evolution of the pandaren concept shouln't be shown by copy and paste two sources. Another concern is that the pandaren do have a "image problem" as a April Fools joke race. Adding the joke under their empires history as a source might not help. The evolution of their concept and their joke-history are already covered on another page. BTW Sometimes I might sound harsher then I want because I'm not a native english speaker. --LemonBaby (talk) 16:05, 27 October 2011 (UTC)


 * The page you linked does not show how the lore itself evolved, just meta-information on the pandaren.-- 18:00, 27 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Nevertheless shouldn't this page be about how the pandaren lore evolved. I think that this is very interesting, but this kind of information should either be added on the pandaren page or on the History of pandaren in Warcraft page.--LemonBaby (talk) 18:11, 27 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Ideally, this should be a page about the Pandaren Empire. There used to be two similar but mutually exclusive mentions of it, one of which was a joke, the other non-canon. If I could, I would shove the two old entries together, but it would contradict itself with every line. It would also be against out policy to shove RPG-sourced info into a corner, despite Metzen saying at BlizzCon 2011 that he may have been too hasty making it all non-canonical. Now, the versions presented before seem to have been scrapped, but I don't think that the old bits should be removed. The joke is more "canon" than the RPG lore as it stands.-- 20:20, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

The April fools section wouldn't be removed. It is already on the april fools page. We didn't include the Wisp (April Fools) lore to the Wisp page. Or the Ogre (April Fools) to the Ogre page. Additionaly I don't think that the jokes like the Tauren marine are more canon than the RPG lore. But if you want to read the section feel free to do so.--LemonBaby (talk) 08:07, 29 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm not saying that jokes are canon. It is not like ogres debuted in a joke. I am saying that with the RPG declared non-canon, the joke is the only pre-MoP lore on this that we have at all, or at least is better than the RPG lore, until Blizzard changes its mind. Any more thoughts?-- 18:14, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Rassharom and Rikktik
Do we know for certain if Rassharom and Rikktik were emperors of the post-mogu Pandaren Empire? Isn't it possible that they were emperors of the Jinyu and Hozen Empires, respectively, (not necessarily at the same time) before the mogu enslaved them? Rassharom is also mentioned on the Jinyu empire page, so I added a notice to the "Emperors" section that it's unknown exactly which empire he ruled over. DeludedTroll (talk) 06:31, 13 April 2015 (UTC)