Talk:Loa

Some Speculation on my Part
It might be interesting to note that the 5 Loa bear some resemblance to the five Aspects. Alexstrasza and Deathwing represent two sides of a coin: Life and Death. The red Alextraza could represent the Tiger, while Deathwing is the Panther. Malygos' favored humanoid form is distinctly insectoid in appearance, connecting him with the spider. Ysera controlls the domain of sleep and dreams. Sleep is associated with the night, as are nocturnal bats. There is little connection between Nozdormu and a snake.

On a slightly different note, each of the Loa could be the patron of a certain troll race. The Jungle Trolls would be akin to a tiger. Dark Trolls to the panther. Forest Trolls are known to worship a snake goddess, which would connect them to snakes. The capital of the Sand Troll kingdom, Zul'Farrak, is often associated with Spiders. There is little connection between Ice Trolls and bats.

Of course, this is all speculation on my part, and some of it could be called far-fetched.

Do they die?
This might sound stupied but if the players have the chance to kill a Loa God in this case it means that they die for good right? I mean in the lore it wasn't explained if the loas in a sense escape from their fate. the spider loa has a venom which the whitebark trolls obtain could it mean that the trolls kill the spider in a sorts of a ritual? Manuelwow

Amani primal gods
Ok I need some clarification, about the names;

Nalorakk, the Bear Akil'zon, the Eagle Jan'alai, the Dragonhawk Halazzi, the Lynx

Are these the names of the primal gods, or the names of the trolls channeling the primal gods? Because if its the latter, then those names shouldn't be listed in the loa list. If we don't know the names of the primal gods then that needs to be mentioned.Baggins 03:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I just checked blizzard's offical site for the ZA preview because I remembered a thread on the wow forums asking about this and someone said that the preview mentioned how they were the names of the trolls, though after checking it doesn't seem to specify. The poster mentioned that sense they're imprisioning the gods its unlikely they'd show enough respect to use their names, but without confirmation, I suggest putting a "named presumed" disclaimer by them, or something of the sort.Tweak the Whacked 08:03, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Apparently, and I haven't seen this personally, but the Amani Primal Gods show up in WotLK, and bear the names they have in Zul'Aman. This would lend credence to the idea that these are the names of gods and not names of trolls. --Zedric (talk) 14:44, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I can confirm this. After beating the quest "Breaking Through Jin'Alai" in Zul'Drak the gods from Zul'Aman come in their spiritual forms. They are indeed the names of the gods and not the trolls.Uncle Troll (talk) 16:39, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Primal Gods
Is Hakkar controlling the Primal Gods? When Exzhal speaks with the Hakkari prisoner, the Zealot tells Exzhal that he will have to face Hakkar, and then after that the Primal Gods. Rolandius ( talk  -  contr ) 04:53, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Darkspear Loa
I think it might be too early to speculate at this point, since the sound files have only been datamined, but where would Bwonsamdi and Zentabra fall under in relation to other Loa? Is it too early to add them to the list of Loa? Soliden (talk) 06:20, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * At least because they're datamined, yes, it's too early. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 06:40, March 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * When the patch does drop, if that stuff remains the same, then Bwonsamdi (Baron Samedi) is a Shadow Hunter loa that we have recognized for years. He addresses Vol'jin as Shadow Hunter and is clearly in charge of the dead souls of Trolls (or at least the Darkspear), judging by the audio file. He is the game version of the pen and paper loa, Samedi finally making an appearance. -- Uncle Troll (talk) 02:44, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

Zim' are not loas
In fact the guy who asks to asks to deliver offers to them calls them gods and not loas, also they have no phisical animal representation like other loas only statues--Ashbear160 (talk) 02:43, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Sul
Assumend by Antu'sul and his quotes, Sul seems to be a bassilisk loa, is anythinjg known about it?TheSatyr (talk) 21:06, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Akil'darah
Who is this supposed "eagle" loa? only find vague references to it :S.--Lon-ami (talk) 17:00, 20 January 2011 (UTC)


 * He seems to share name with the forest troll loa Akil'zon (who is an eagle too), so the ymight be the same or it is possible Akil'darah is a child of Akil'zon (if loa can have children) or that Akil'darah was a hero/prophet empowered by Akil'zon. You found those mentions in some quests with the Revantusk in Hinterlands right? - Aedror (talk) 17:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't know, that's why I'm asking xDDD. Searched references to it, but found only some objects here and there, nothing really relevant :S.--Lon-ami (talk) 18:36, 20 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I believe i completed a quest in Hinterlands where you are teleported by a shrine of Akil'darah to the top of one of the troll.complexes in that zone. Although i can't find the quest on WoWHead. - Aedror (talk) 18:43, 20 January 2011 (UTC)


 * O_O, no idea about that. Try checking with a flying mount if you're able, please.--Lon-ami (talk) 18:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Just arrived there, i've got the gossip text of a troll named Kotonga (you need to complete a quest for him to say this) and a picture of the Totem of Akil'darah . - Aedror (talk) 19:22, 20 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Your levels of awesome are rising :D.
 * The question now is: how many more of these "idols" are around Hinterlands? take your time to check, if you can, the entire storyline, but I suspect there could be more. This quest looks like players want to please a series of loa, not just this one.
 * For now, let's put that back to the article :).--Lon-ami (talk) 20:15, 20 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I've completed the whole chain on my undead warlock, and i don't believe i cam by any more of these idols, but i'll try fly there with my gnome lock to see if i can find anything, oh and hopefully WoWhead update so we can include the info from the quest i completed, where she was mentioned. - Aedror (talk) 21:51, 20 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Nope, there's none. Not for Alliance and neither for Horde. I may have missed some, but i honestly don't think so. - Aedror (talk) 14:45, 23 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks a lot anyway. I'll make a page for him asap :).--Lon-ami (talk) 17:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * By the way, would be nice if you manage to get the text of the quest with another character. WoWHead doesn't have it (and no one seems to have read your comment about that :P).--Lon-ami (talk) 17:13, 23 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah sure i'll see what i can do. - Aedror (talk) 17:15, 23 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it turns out there was no quest... you just turn in Death to the Vilebranch and Kotonga will then say that the idol of Akil'darah is theirs, nothing more. - Aedror (talk) 18:22, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Sacred to the Bloodscalp
Anyone have any idea where the Bloodscalp totemic creatures fit in?

http://www.wowhead.com/quest=26743

Seeing as the Drakkari gods are here, perhaps these should get some sort of mention.

They are sort of part of the Troll pantheon I suppose. I was thinking maybe they should be posted. Kra&#39;Khed (talk) 06:05, 13 March 2011 (UTC)


 * They might fit in the same category as Akil'darah (the ealge spirit of the Hinterlands), so I'll add the Bloodscalp spirits to the site in the same way as Akil'darah. - Aedror (talk) 10:46, 13 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Just found some more info, these animal spirits can be found as mobs in-game. - Aedror (talk) 10:54, 13 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Awesome find, great work ;).--Lon-ami (talk) 11:14, 13 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Well thanks for having them put in. On a partially unrelated note, does anyone think Oacha'noa has some place on this page? She does seem worried about the Drakkari killing her to steal her powers. Kra&#39;Khed (talk) 15:48, 13 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Sounds more like a tuskarr deity, imo.--Lon-ami (talk) 17:52, 13 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Well this is just for Loa in general anyways --Kra&#39;Khed (talk) 01:29, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

The Judgment: Sen'jin and other things
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/lore/leader-story/voljin/1

This story contains a lot of info on Loa that should probably be added as soon as possible, and suggests Sen'jin is now among the Loa. --Kra&#39;Khed (talk) 01:32, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Shadra Citation
I am unsure about how I should cite Shadra's extra names, so I will put it here and let the bigwigs adjust it as they see fit.
 * During the quest "The Spider God" in Vanilla WoW, Theka's tablet had an extra bit that had Shadra's names.
 * This places her as a Loa to not only the Gurubashi / Vilebranch / Witherbark, but the Sandfury as well (who were Gurubashi, pre-Sundering).
 * It read:
 * "Elortha no Shadra
 * God of Spiders, Mother of Venom, Silk Dancer, Death's Love."

http://www.wowhead.com/quest=2936 http://old.wowhead.com/object=142715

-- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by. 31 May 2012‎


 * Thank you for pointing out where the source came from (even I couldn't remember), but if you are not sure how to cite a reference you shouldn't remove the citation requests. For more information please see WP:CITE.
 * As for the Sandfury issue, yes there were once part of the Gurubashi, but that doesn't necessarily mean they still worship the same gods, though it is likely. 21:00, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Unknown hydra loa
I'd take a pretty good guess and say it's likely Gahz'rilla, seeing as there's a tiny Gahz'rilla pool in Tal'farrak, reminiscent of the one in Zul'Farrak. Question is, is that solid enough to get rid of the unknown hydra loa as well? – WarGodZajru (talk) 05:15, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Enough for a speculation IMO Xporc (talk) 11:48, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Hir'eek and Blood Trolls
Is the corrupted version of Hir'eek worshipped by the Blood Trolls?--Ashendant (talk) 20:18, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes. -- MyMindWontQuiet 09:28, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Wisps and Ancient Guardians
The Wisps were moved from the possible list into the known list, but the reference to the Ancient Guardians was removed all together. It also doesn't make much sense to list Wisps(which by loose definition is a species) together in a list of individual characters/deities.--Ashendant (talk) 20:18, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 * It's a list of beings that are called loa, wisps are considered to be loa.
 * Nonetheless, I moved them underneath the table so we can also move the Fetid Devourer and Sentry Guardian stuff up, but it may look a bit odd. -- MyMindWontQuiet 09:37, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Good job on the recent page update but I noticed the witherbark troll were forgotten on the Shadra information. There may be more minor stuff forgotten. Xporc (talk) 14:12, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Drakkari Loa - Dead or not?
With BfA acting like they can perma Loa using the Drakkari's methods, does that mean that certain gods are actually dead? This would mainly infer to Sseratus, as Akali, Rhunok, Har'koa and Quetzcoatl were able to evade true death in some manner/were not properly sacrificed.--Berenal (talk) 02:52, 4 April 2019 (UTC)