Talk:Stromgarde (kingdom)

Referring to WoW Events
We don't know what is canon and what isn't in Warcraft lore. Consider, for example, that Mograine Jr. in the Scarlet Monastery is killed as part of three separate questlines. Also, the phrases "agent of the Horde" and "agent of the Alliance" is extremely vague. It's much clearer and less presumptuous just to refer to game events explicitly.--Aeleas 11:10, 18 December 2006 (EST)

Let's be realistic. Danath did not mentioned Galen at all. Also, being one-faction major quest chain (that leads to his death), we have a very good reason to belive that his death is canon. Regards, --Theron the Just 07:24, 20 December 2006 (EST)


 * Danath's failure to mention his nephew neither confirms or denies Galen's death. Whether or not Galen is dead, Stromgarde still sucks to live in, and Danath would want to correct that. Also, I would hardly consider the quest chain that results in Galen's death to be a major one. From what I understand of WoWWiki policy, and what most people seem to agree on, is that if there is a quest line in WoW that kills an NPC, this should be noted in the article. HOWEVER, it should not be stated as fact that the NPC is dead. There are a few exceptions, but generally, until events relating to quests in WoW have been confirmed by another source, they should not be considered canon. --Mikaka 17:21, 23 December 2006 (EST)


 * I agree with Mikala. My edits, in my view, told the reader exactly what we know and what to expect in WoW, and nothing more.  The version that the article has been reverted to by Theron is much more speculative, PoV, and unhelpful in distinguishing what occurs in WoW and what is backstory (a rather important, practical consideration).
 * Even if we accept Galen's death as canon, it remains to be seen how WoW events will be incorporated. I raised this issue a few months ago, here.  I think this is an area which definitely requires community discussion and a guideline or policy.--Aeleas 20:32, 23 December 2006 (EST)

Agreed, this is more discussion on this in Ragestorm's talk page if your interested. Its in archive 4 I believe Baggins 20:36, 23 December 2006 (EST)

Cataclysm
anything confirmed about stromgarde in cataclysm? well galen is forsaken ther and ther is issue of danath's return so.. -- Menethils (talk) 09:16, Sept 21, 2010 (UTC)

Stromgarde will be reclaimed by the Alliance with Danath in 5.4
That's the word on the street. Should we include this now or wait until the patch? --ShadowShade (talk) 23:24, 12 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, it will not happen - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/9281758454?page=15#290 --Mordecay (talk) 12:41, 14 June 2013 (UTC)


 * However, for future reference, we do not add anything that has been datamined. WP:DUC. 15:18, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I was just on my way to link that exact post. Anyways, I think there is more reason to suspect Danath is the leader of Stromgarde than the questgiver and battlemaster. He's a lore character, for one thing. --ShadowShade (talk) 20:26, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Refuge Point
Are we to assume that Refuge Point has also been converted? (Shammiesgun (talk) 20:03, 16 April 2016 (UTC))
 * I would assume nothing and wait until we have more information. The expansion is still in its alpha phase, so things could change between now and launch.  I also doubt it will be affected since its currently the Alliance battleground portal and quest hub.Blayaden6724 (talk) 20:51, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Destroyed Kingdom/Inactive
Since the Ebon Blade questline in Legion Alpha leads to the death of Galen Trollbane, several of his soldiers, and the undead Thoras declaring his kingdom dead, shouldn't Stromgaurde be considered ianctive, and be referred to be in past tense. While there are remnants like the Refugee point, and probably the undead we didn't kill, its hard to call them a kingdom anymore. Copperblast (talk) 05:51, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Perhpaps, but I think we should wait untill Legion goes live with a change like this. PeterWind (talk) 13:41, 18 April 2016 (UTC)