Talk:Tandred Proudmoore

Discussion of sources
I think is mentioned somewhere in Lands of Conflict, as stated in this, more or less, trustable source: http://www.blizzplanet.com/content/380/
 * I believe he may actually be in the Tides of Darkness novelization, but I'd have to go back and reread it. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:52, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * He's not, the one there is Derek Proudmoore, if my memory doesn't fail me (which usually doesn't).--Lon-ami (talk) 19:38, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Right, I know Derek's the one that got killed on the ships, but I thought they mentioned Tandred, too. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 20:11, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Just checked in a pdf I had around from the book: not a single mention.--Lon-ami (talk) 20:28, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * So do we consider he never existed?
 * 07:07, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * That he's not canon? Yes. -- 13:23, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Tandred is non-canon.
So apparently, Chris Metzen decided that Tandred would be non-canonical. For what reason, I don't know, and he hasn't shared them.
 * https://twitter.com/Loreology/status/336503006268899328
 * https://twitter.com/Loreology/status/357271492943290368
 * https://twitter.com/Loreology/status/448137996219740160

My personal opinion on the matter is that I think its a dumb idea. Why? Well, when/if they reintroduce Kul Tiras and present the new leader they just invented, it might feel a bit more like an ***pull than if they use an already existing and written character, even if he's only been mentioned once.

Additionally, that also leaves a gap of nearly 10 years between Daelin's death and Mists where Kul Tiras is without a leader. Daelin's dead, Derek's dead, Jaina's been in Theramore, she's currently in Dalaran and Tandred's non canon. So who's been in charge of Kul Tiras all that time?

Guess I'll be crossing my fingers and hoping that Tandred pulls a Malakk (Crosses from non-canon to canon). What do you guys think? Should Tandred become canon? --Aeliren85 (talk) 04:38, 4 April 2014 (UTC)


 * As far as I know Tandred was never canon after they announced that the RPGs are not canon. Most probably there is some Proudmoore relative that has never been mentioned yet leading Kul Tiras. --[[File:CogHammer.gif]]D oo meЯ  T [[Image:Battlegroup_RoundIcon.png|16px]]C  04:58, 4 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Or maybe another noble family is in charge of Kul Tiras, as the Proudmoore weren't royalty as per Rise of the Lich King. So Tandred being non-canon (since te de-canonization of the RPG) doesn't bother me at all.--Cemotucu (talk) 10:31, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I have faith in Jaina's mother whose existence (the only thing) is known. --Mordecay (talk) 12:44, 4 April 2014 (UTC)


 * They were still royalty in Rise of the Lich King. That is why Arthas' and Jaina's romance was so condoned. Her father is explicitly the ruler of Kul Tiras.-- 18:21, 4 April 2014 (UTC)


 * RotLK says: 'Jaina was the daughter, if not of royalty, of nobility and of a ruler. Her father, Admiral Daelin Proudmoore, ruled the city-state of Kul Tiras, and Jaina had grown up accustomed to interaction with nobility.' The Proudmoores were the noble rulers of the city-state of Kul Tiras.--Cemotucu (talk) 04:31, 5 April 2014 (UTC)


 * A strange distinction to make. I guess a ruling admiral is not a king, like Dalaran's setup. Retcons win the day.-- 17:54, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Tandred may be canon after all?
wowhead recently found Broadcast text credited to Tandred including the line "That bloke in the red shirt over there told me I "wasn't canon." Well, obviously! I'm a mariner, not a cannon!" TimeSage (talk) 03:39, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Wait for context I say. Wowhead has assigned false characters to lines before (remember Thalyssra saying "time to go kill Ashenvale"?). Wait to see if this is actually in game and actually being said by Tandred imo. ReignTG (talk) 03:44, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Hence why I haven't made any changes yet, Alpha is subject to change. It was more note saying "Hey keep an eye on this"TimeSage (talk) 04:11, 14 April 2018 (UTC)


 * IMO the line is not generic at all. Of course, since it it has a stub/bfa template, we won't forget about him and we'll revert my changes if they were too hasty. Xporc (talk) 09:56, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * It's not that the line is generic, but that wowhead may have assigned the line to the wrong person. They've done that before. ReignTG (talk) 15:02, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Well there you go: https://twitter.com/Llorewalker/status/986379973614223360 LLorewalker confirmed Tandred is not a bug or something. Xporc (talk) 07:16, 18 April 2018 (UTC)