Talk:Dark ranger

HPG
sweet more lore to add to this from horde player's guide.Baggins 21:07, 16 November 2006 (EST)

Druidism
It says here that they where saddened by the loss of Druidism. Wtf...? They are HIGH Elves, not Night Elves. Saimdusan 18:11, 4 December 2006 (EST)

Remember, high elves had a long history of nature loving and druidism as far back as "Warcraft II". This is just a refrence to that obscure lore. Check out Freywinn for a blood elf druid in Burning Crusade.Baggins 21:14, 23 December 2006 (EST)

Oh... if so why don't Blood Elves get Druids? It's not like they can't give Draeni druids as well. Saimdusan 03:57, 30 December 2006 (EST)


 * In a way you have them... The Blood elf hunters are the equivalent to Elven Rangers of Quel'Thalas. They just aren't the shape shifting druidic types you are used to, :P... But are still nature loving type.Baggins 04:02, 30 December 2006 (EST)

Jaedenar Druids
I was reading some orc in Felwood (he had a sword named Hellfire and 2 succubi as assistants) raised some druids into undeath and they had most of their druidic powers. Why can't the Dark Rangers use theres?

I found it.
 * Fel’dan has learned how to reanimate the deceased druids of Jaedenar into intelligent undead druids who retain many of their abilities. These undead druids have such an intimate knowledge of nature that they are able to spread the corruption of Felwood much further and faster than normal. Fel'dan carries the greatsword, Hellfire.LoM 15, 16

Screenshots
Does anyone have screenshots of the Dark Rangers from WotLK?

The Living
Is it possible for a living humanoid to be a Dark Ranger? What I mean is, if there was a Forsaken that would teach let's say a Blood Elf, could he teach him, or is it impossible for them to do since only undead can or something?  Mr.X8  Talk Contribs  22:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Theres living Death Knights and Necromancers,so why not Dark rangers? 22:58, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Dark Ranger Marrah is named a dark ranger...she appears to be alive. Its description says they were ,basically, rangers brought back from the dead and taught new arts. So I believe it's more of a teaching than an undead requirement. I don't see Sylvanas sharing that info with outsiders however... 23:15, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

I alwase thaught they were just necro-rangers 23:28, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * It says in the RPG that being undead is a requirement for being a Dark Ranger, as well as Dark Rangers being found only among the Forsaken, who are exclusively undead. It's more than just choosing evil like a Death Knight would; it's about the shock of losing one's touch with nature through undeath and turning to the shadow in one's hatred. Long story short: no, it is not possible for a living humanoid to be a Dark Ranger. Toasty McGrath (talk) 07:04, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, you are right, plus she now has new textures. 15:59, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Males
Is it possible for males to be dark rangers, or is it female specific? There don't seem to be -any- examples of the former, and there's nothing on the page about it.


 * Since there are both Male and Female rangers in lore, I don't see why there shouldn't be any male dark rangers. The "female exclusive" ranger stems from Warcraft III where dark rangers were based on Sylvanas Windrunner.  I don't see any reason why males can't be. Nathanos Blightcaller is listed as a dark ranger, and thats accurate, due to him being able to summon skeletons and his "Psychic Scream" ability.--Blayaden (talk) 17:12, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I believe I found a way to prove you wrong, Blayaden. Dark Rangers are High Elven rangers who were slain in the Third War, correct? Nathanos Brightcaller's situation, however, is that he's human, therefor never died in Quel'Thalas meaning he's no banshee. Dark Rangers are basically Rangers, correct? But, the Rangers are from Quel'Thalas! And the Banshees inhabit their normal bodies, making Dark Rangers. Seeing Nathanos was the only human ranger, and he died, he's basically the [i]only[/i] Male as well as Non-elven ranger in existence to date, as well as the only non-elven Dark Ranger? Correct me if I've fault in my calculations. Pardon me if I'm wrong. There's just been a hard debate about if there can be male rangers. I've read this and found something terribly wrong, as if we're missing something. This came up in my mind.Zamoonda (talk) 19:41, March 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't think the prerequisite for being a dark ranger is turning into a banshee and returning to your body. It merely requires that you die (as a ranger), come back as a Forsaken, and follow a "darker path".  Sylvanas just went the extra mile. (:P)--Blayaden (talk) 14:49, March 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Where does it say that? I was certain all Dark Rangers were banshees. Discluding Nathanos, of course, who is the only non-elven ranger, which means he can't be a Banshee even if he was female.
 * The official Warcraft 3 page just says, "A cunning Hero, adept at manipulating opponents. Forcibly raised from the dead, the former Rangers of Quel'Thalas enjoy nothing more than sowing dissension and hatred within the enemy ranks. Attacks land and air units." There's nothing in there about being former banshees; the only one who is known to have been created that way is Sylvanas. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 20:41, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * That may be true. However, one of the Dark Ranger's ability is for example silence, the splitting scream of the Banshee. How can a non-banshee use that ability? With the extra of their body, the Banshees are the full Dark Ranger. I believe that a non-banshee Dark Ranger will just have a poisonous arrow. (No reason as to how they could drain life or silence or charm, or of their other abilities)
 * It wouldn't be the first time that creatures got extra abilities purely by virtue of being undead. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 21:27, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

When is the other time? Sure, they cannibalize and have underwater breathing and the like, sometimes other things concerning ability. But that's because they're undead, which gives an advantage of things they can't do while living. The scream of the Banshee is I believe unique to the banshee, as well as I don't believe Nathanos looks like the warlockish type.Zamoonda (talk) 21:52, March 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * After doing quite a bit of research of the NPC's abilities, I came to a number of conclusions. They all have typical Ranged abilites (autoshot, multishot) most have Black Arrow (Blightcaller has an ability called "shadow shot" probably a "beta" black arrow, the ones that don't have black arrow are NPC's that don't fight, like Vorel) some can stealth, the new ones in Undercity have nets, and only two have "banshee screams". Guess which two.  I'll give a hint, the first is known as The Banshee Queen and the other is  is MALE.--Blayaden (talk) 14:48, March 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * Stil lacks logic. How is it he does what you call a "Banshee Scream" when he's not even a Banshee? It's Banshee Scream? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by.


 * It may lack "logic", but that's the way it is. Its a fact. Its there. You can't disprove it. You can't remove it.  PLEASE get over it. Unless you have something else to contribute to the topic, I suggest we move on with our lives.--Blayaden (talk) 00:00, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Race
Truly reanimated bodies or banshees possessing their original bodies, just like Sylvanas ? Pudim17 (talk - contr) 17:31, September 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * From what I've seen, it can just an undead elf ranger (or human because of Blightcaller) and trained to use their new "undead" abilities. Sylvanas is a notable case because she's both a banshee and has her body.  Best (or worst) of both worlds, I guess.  I'm betting with the Undead getting hunters, they'll be referred to as "Dark Rangers" like blood elf hunters are referred to as rangers in quest dialogue. --Blayaden (talk) 17:15, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Imhadria?
In the wrath of the lich king notable section, does Imhadria even count as a dark ranger? After I clicked on her link, it seems that she serves as a stable master who is a blood elf who's also working for the knights of the ebon blade. It seems like she's just a blood elf death knight rather than a dark ranger. --Previously Flame486 00:11, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Death knights don't use bows and have pets. 01:24, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know for sure, but she seems to be a death knight that decided to become a hunter. Being a death knight is as much a state of being as it is a class. Can one ever stop being one? She just changed jobs.-- 01:27, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * She is a curious one. 01:51, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Well Coobra, dark hunters don't have glowing blue eyes either. --Previously Flame486 22:12, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Glowing blue eyes, glowing yellow eyes, glowing red eyes... they're all signs of being undead, it just depends on what particular model chosen to be used by the Bliz team. They used the player death knight model for that NPC, but that doesn't automatically make it a death knight. 22:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Doesn't automatically make them a dark ranger either. --Previously Flame486 17:38, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Unless we can prove she's a dark ranger, then we shouldn't list her as one. It's that simple. [[Image:inv_helmet_44.png|22px]]  (talk contribs) 23:22, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Despite what was said above, it seems someone has tried to mark her down as a Dark Ranger nevertheless; this has been reversed. Unless there is some official response from Blizzard then it should be assumed she is a Death Knight foremost, as she serves the Ebon Blade and has blue eyes - Dark Rangers are shown only to have red.
 * Not to necro something, but something that has been completely overlooked throughout this entire discussion is that Lady Alistra - a Knight of the Ebon Blade who trains Unholy Death Knights - does not share the same eye color as most Death Knights. Her eyes are red. It is undeniable, even though her eyes are red, that she is a Death Knight. It would be a little silly to let such a thing prove to be a hang-up. 05:25, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Former banshees
With the singular exception of Sylvanas, what is the source for this? -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 21:40, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I think most people just assumed that since Sylvanas looks similar and has the same abilities as Dark Rangers that they have the same origins. However no other Dark Rangers I know of have shown the ability to use a Banshee shout. [[Image:inv_helmet_44.png|22px]]  (talk contribs) 23:25, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Even the RPG states that dark rangers are just former elf rangers that were raised from death, no inbetween banshee state. 04:47, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Dark Rangers?
So are they a class, a occupation or a Forsaken faction? It seems they are a military faction. --Ryon21 (talk) 17:36, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Technically class would be Hunter and the occupation would be Dark ranger. There are dark rangers among the Ebon Blade (or at least a speculated one), the Unseen Path and they were neutral heroes in WCIII. Xporc (talk) 12:03, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * :shrug: They seem to be just a Forsaken thing. And the ones in the Unseen Path I'd guess they are all Forsaken no? It isn't something very important though. --Ryon21 (talk) 12:50, 12 October 2018 (UTC)