Talk:Ra'wani Kanae

Merge
it seems a little silly to have a "lore" page for a character with no lore. aside from the occupation line and a couple categories, this page has nothing that isn't already present in the main article. i think one of the two names should just be a redirect. same for frida. —Eithris (talk) 19:27, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I can't decide. There are also General Erodus and Chief Engineer Ishkar of the Antoran High Command and Ahri'ok Dugru, Makogg Emberblade, and Neesa Nox with Grimrail Enforcers with the same basis as these two I guess. -- 19:38, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * i feel like those make a little more sense, since they're multiple characters in one encounter. a merge could definitely be argued for them, but personally my concern is mostly about having two pages for a single character. —Eithris (talk) 19:54, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. Alternatively, what about merging Champion of the Light (Alliance) and Champion of the Light (Horde) into one page? Or given the structure of the raid having two pages makes more sense? -- 20:02, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * ohh, i like that idea. now that you mention it, it looks like those two pages are nearly identical--the only notable differences are the adventure guide descriptions & the quotes. it'd be pretty easy to do a merge, if no one is opposed. —Eithris (talk) 21:29, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * oh wait, i just noticed jadefire masters uses faction disambiguation which looks pretty nice. i think i might prefer to keep the Champion pages separate and do the same thing with them. —Eithris (talk) 21:40, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * With the Grimrail Enforcers, it makes sense to have separate pages for each of boss to provide information about their objectives and their own abilities that they have. Antoran High Command have some little lore bits in them (such as Ishkar ordered to shoot down the Xenedar) that I think justifies them having their own article. Ra'wani Kanae, however, doesn't have much information and unlike this boss, isn't exactly a Council encounter and therefore Kanae is the only boss you encounter in Champions of the Light (for Alliance). I think the real question here is whether the boss articles should follow the Adventure Guide (encounter) name or the actual boss name in the instance. 22:00, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's not comparable to council fights, because council fights consist of multiple bosses. Here there's only one boss with adds, it's just that the name of the encounter is different from the boss name. In the past we've gone with the Adventure Guide name over the boss name when we need to disambiguate a boss page from a lore page (Nefarian's End, Zul, Reborn), but I can't think of any such cases where there's no lore page to disambiguate from. I think the most sensible option would be to redirect Ra'wani and Frida to the corresponding Champion of the Light pages and then in turn link the Champion pages together using faction disambiguation, just like on Jadefire Masters. -- 22:11, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * While not bosses, there are mobs to be killed during the fight. Would that be a factor for having two pages (one for the character and the second for the encounter)?
 * Page names for these situations was previously discussed and the adventure guide name was chosen
 * I see the logic behind it now, so I don't mind the merge or if it stays as two pages. -- 22:12, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Mobs should just have a encounter article about themselves where it contains information such as the abilities it uses during the encounter, quotes (if any), etc. and at the top should contain the Main to link to the actual encounter page. Like we've been doing with lots of other mobs that appeared in encounters (with multiple bosses or one). Example: Phoenix (Tempest Keep) or a more recent one, Plaguefang. 22:27, 29 August 2020 (UTC)