Talk:Witchdoctor Yoksa

Tagged as female how? --Mordecay (talk) 18:50, 3 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Using the  macro will tell you what gender the game considers an NPC to be. --  18:59, 3 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Interesting. I believe theres a script for class as well and it was agreed that it would not be used as a source as it would show odd results (there was an example of Galen or someone from Stromgarde when it would show paladin, but clearly the dude was not one). It certain the gender is ok? --Mordecay (talk) 19:23, 3 October 2018 (UTC)


 * I would assume so, since gender doesn't have as many variables or potential for weird/lore-conflicting results as classes. User:PeterWind and User:Eithris both regularly use it, I believe. -- 19:25, 3 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Wouldnt the Yoksa case be an example of it not being so reliable? I feel like normal in game stuff, like the in-game book, should be prioritized over the script. --Mordecay (talk) 21:15, 3 October 2018 (UTC)


 * I still would not rely on the script. It's possible that the passage in Zem'lan's Bloody Notes is in error, but we can't be certain of that unless someone from Blizzard clarifies the matter. -- Alayea (talk / contrib) 05:35, 4 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Meh, I suppose I agree that things like the flashback quests and in-game books would be more reliable sources than the script and would take precedence when it's ambiguous. However, if we decide that the script isn't reliable, would I need to go through most of the 100+ skeleton mobs (and most of the sethrak NPCs at the Sanctuary of the Devoted, for that matter, since most of them don't use voice lines in-game) and delete the gender info from their infoboxes when the only source for the gender is the macro, or would it be fine to leave those as-is? -- 07:37, 4 October 2018 (UTC)


 * I have no problem with using the script where no conflicting evidence exist. If every regular ingame clue points to male, but the script says otherwise, I wouldn't trust the script. In cases where we only have the script, I think it's fine to use that. Where descrepencies exist, we can just make a note of it. Oftentimes wowhead will list the soundfiles as well, from which gender can often be discerned. PeterWind (talk) 08:07, 4 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Same as Pete. Xporc (talk) 12:03, 4 October 2018 (UTC)


 * So, in the case of Yoksa, would that mean listing them as male in the infobox, citing Zem'lan's Bloody Notes, but still keeping the note about how the script considers them to be female, or would the note be removed for not being relevant enough? -- 12:17, 4 October 2018 (UTC)


 * I think the notes would take priority. I would personally add it as a note, but stuff like that would probably just be up to the individual editor. PeterWind (talk) 13:59, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * It's likely that the "gender" option was a bit random during the creation of these NPCs since they use a unique skeleton model, there is usually no need to fill out the gender option when the model you are using does not (well, cannot) represent genders. It's why you can find weird genders for such creatures. So I'd go by lore/the book as well. -- MyMindWontQuiet 15:07, 4 October 2018 (UTC)


 * I wasn't wondering whether or not we should go by Zem'lan's Bloody Notes, I was wondering if it meant we should keep the current  section on the Witchdoctor Yoksa page or not. In other words, if "Official lore says character X is male, the script says otherwise" is something that deserves a Notes section or if it's too trivial and should be ignored. --  15:11, 4 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Wondering the same for the class script, if appearance / abilities / lore says one class but the script says another. Note it? --Mordecay (talk) 19:25, 4 October 2018 (UTC)