Talk:Dark Iron clan

Dark Iron Clan
I moved info from 'Dark Iron Clan' to this page because Dark Irons are racially distinct from other dwarves, not just of a differing clan. This would be to classify them similarly to 'Forest Troll' or 'Night Elf'. --Varghedin, Sept 30th, 11:21 (CET)

Service To The Old Gods
Trough Ragnaros, the Dark Irons serve the Old Gods, and, the black dragons, more specificly Deathwing, was corrupted by the Old Gods, and if Ragnaros rules the Dark Iron Dwarves and Deathwing (Trough his "son" Nefarion) rules the Blackrock Orcs, this meaning both serving the Old Gods, why does Blackrocks and Dark Irons fight, then? --H91 (talk) 14:57, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't really think that Deathwing serves the Old Gods anymore. Besides, Blackrock Mountain is too small for both sides. Andreioplst (talk) 08:33, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Appearance
The Dark Iron's dwarves may or may not be white to sickly grey, but in WoW its a darkish grey to black. Could someone change it? Mr.X8 00:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I added that, but cited RPG info always stays.-- 00:08, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Who added "in WoW they have red skin" I've never seen one w/ red skin. Mr.X8 01:35, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Paladins or clerics
Is it possible these dwarves retained palidanism or the holy light use from the IF dwarven mother race? I mean some of them use holy spells.  Mr.X8  Talk Contribs  02:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Considering that the first paladins weren't trained for a few hundred years after the split from the main dwarven kingdom, I doubt it. I supose its possible that a few of the thorium brotherhood or others who left Ragnaros' service may have become paladins if they could find someone willing to train them, though.Tweak the Whacked 01:57, 23 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Strangely while they don't talk about paladins in the lore sections there are rules for how to play paladins with this race. However, before anyone starts trying to put it up on the list of classes, the table is a generic table with all the races listed in the book, Dark Factions, and how to adjust the stats. Its not lore table. If it had to do with lore than demonic satyr could be holy paladins, which well would be impossible in actual lore.Baggins (talk) 16:47, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Mounts
Why would they need mounts underground in small spaces? I am sure the Rams don't like it. Rolandius ( talk  -  contr ) 09:13, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


 * In the new ''Through the Mirror Darkly a large group of dark iron dwarves ambush the heroes. They are all riding rams.Dakovski (talk) 09:26, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Deathwing/Old God Connection?
I would like to revisit what H91 brought up, but in a different way: The Twilight's Hammer serve Deathwing, and they also serve the Old Gods. I've read that they have worshipped Ragnaros, and Ragnaros controlls the Dark Irons that didn't go th Ironforge. Since Deathwing controls Cho'gall and the Twilight's Hammer, and they still follow the old gods, and since Ragnaros himself is still associated with the Old Gods, wouldn't that technically mean that the Dark Irons have joined Deathwing and the Old Gods?Rangerkid51 (talk) 02:37, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Dark Irons didn't follow Ragnaros entirely by choice. And with his defeat in the Molten Core, they're free to choose their own allegiances again. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk)

Patriarches
At first we thought that The Seven were the patriarches of the Dark Iron and the ones would worked with Thaurissan to summon Ragnaros, but with Cataclysm comes Archeology and Blackwing Descent. We find one artifact for 7 "Dark Iron thanes" (Angerforge, Anvilrage, Burningeye, Corehammer, Ironstar, Moltenfist, Shadowforge) who seemed to be the rulers of their own clan and in a council-type their whole nation. Then in the Athenaeum we find the Spirit of Thaurissan and the seven dark iron thanes named before.

So are they flavor? lore? worth mentioning?

And who the hell summoned Ragnaros with Thaury?

07:52, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Since The Seven are in the Summoners' Tomb subzone of Blackrock Depths, I'm guessing that they're the ones who helped summon Ragnaros, and that the spirits in Blackwing Descent are simply the spirits of past Dark Iron rulers. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 08:58, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Split
There are the Hill dwarf and Mountain dwarf pages. The Dark dwarves are sad. --Mordecay (talk) 18:41, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Possible Dunmer inspiration
Just a random thought I've had for awhile, but there's a curious amount of similarities between the Dark Irons and the Dunmer, or Dark Elves, of TES that it almost seems worth mentioning as a bit of trivia to go along with the D&D Duergar connection.

Namely, both were originally physically akin to others of their race but showcased a different set of ideals; following a heretical change of events during a large scale conflict (Battle of Red Mountain and War of the Three Hammers), both were cursed with grey skin and red eyes. The Dark Irons summoned Ragnaros who subsequently branded their appearance, whereas the Dunmer were changed by Azura after they forsook her and two other Daedric Lords for the Living Tribunal.

Both races live in volcanic regions (with an adjacent snowy region to the northwest no less; Dun Morogh in Warcraft and Skyrim in TES). Red Mountain is a significant location to the Dunmer wherein the depths contain the Heart of Lorkhan which was a key item for their change, while the Dark Irons live in Blackrock Mountain which contains the Molten Core where Ragnaros was summoned from who changed them, complete with the Heart of the Mountain (object) found in Blackrock Depths.

In TES, the dwarves were a race of elf who were allied to the Chimer (who become the Dunmer) and in some sources it was suggested the Dwemer were one of the Great Houses of the Chimer, making a cultural connection between the dwarves and dark elves as well. Myrthuil (talk) 00:37, 28 February 2017 (UTC)