Talk:Kul Tiras

Shape
The pictures presented don't really say anything. The settlements may have been there "always" they may be a "recent" thing, they may be located somewhere else, not in the rift, we basically know nothing. --Mordecay (talk) 23:04, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd say it has always been like that, but lets wait until the beta. Surely the Cataclysm has done something to the island like to Zandalar. We'll see if the shifting tectonic plates will be canon or not. --Ryon21 (talk) 23:29, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

This map isn't the shape of Kul Tiras. The file name of the texture was datamined before the announcement of the expansion and had Kul Tiras in it's file name (as the item's drop location). So it was part of speculation as Kul Tiras before the expansion announcement, but it could be a depiction of any random island so moved it to the talk page. Mrforesttroll (talk) 09:10, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It is clearly Kul Tiras, at least a first sketch of the island. You can clearly see Drustvar to the southwest. Some of the islands were not added but it has a very similar shape to the present and past drawings of Kul Tiras. --Ryon21 (talk) 09:25, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * There's also the sound to the South, and it has the iconic shape of Kul Tiras (pear-shaped).
 * Also, that map is related to the expansion, it's on the robes of the tidesage questing gear from Kul Tiras. -- MyMindWontQuiet 13:56, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Cataclysm
While Chronicle III supposedly changed the shape of the island retconning the Cataclysm damage, in the map, it looks somewhat "torn". Testers, is there any damage visible / do NPCs mention the Cataclysm, or is it really just rivers that have such shapes? --Mordecay (talk) 15:21, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
 * As far as I know I haven't heard or read anything. The island that mentions damages is Zandalar. We may wait after the release and then we could say they have retconed the Cataclysm tectonic movement. --Ryon21 (talk) 15:54, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Pronunciation?
The pronunciation seems to have changed from Warcraft II's "KUL-teer-RAHS" to "kul-TEER-as." Abelhawk (talk) 18:16, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Races in Kul Tiras
So the infobox mention that you can find dwarves, sauroks and hozens in Kul Tiras. Is that true? Because I can't find anything here about hozen or saurok tribes living on the island. There are some on island expeditions like the Un'gol Ruins though, which might be where the confusion came from. As for the dwarves it could be a relic of the RPG, or maybe from the Rexxar campaign with the units that count as dwarves I guess, but are there in BFA any dwarf NPCs on the island who didn't come recently from the continent? --Nith (talk) 12:21, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Go to Freehold in Tiragarde Sound (instanced and uninstanced) to find the hozen and saurok (essentially pirates). There is also a cave west of Anglepoint Wharf that I know for sure has saurok there, one being a rare (I do not remember the name). I don't particularly know about the dwarves however, someone else might. 12:29, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I think in Boralus there are some dwarves. One notorious in the island is a Wildhammer dwarf that came from the Twilight Highlands some time ago and is now training the Roughnecks to ride gryphons. --Ryon21 (talk) 12:55, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Name origin
It sounds close both to Gorak Tul (Drust name) and to Lordaeron names referring to Tyr, as the Tiragarde Sound page mentions: Tiragarde Sound could be named after Tyr similarly to Tirisfal Glades. -- K IROCHI  ) 19:11, 26 July 2019 (UTC)


 * VryKul Tiras Xporc (talk) 10:24, 27 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Well done vieille branche. So we have ourselves here a 100% Titanforged name.-- K IROCHI  ) 05:33, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

CDev statement about location
DeludedTroll, here are the reasons for which I deleted the CDev explanation: 1) The Chronicle has the last say and according to it, the tectonic shift didn't happen. As such I'd say it has no place in the canon section, at most in the Trivia section. Also, 9 years have passed and still no other news has surfaced. 2) The reason I make the judgement whether it's a joke or not, is because most people won't, not even for themselves. By leaving it there you make it seem plausible, that an island could move such distance in such a short time, without earthquakes leveling Boralus. You guys, by being so active on the wiki, made yourselves responsible of whether kids leave this place with plausible ideas or with nonsense and I hope we can agree that they should leave with the former.

I know this is only one of several events that make no sense, but I'd be satisfied to know that at least this case is solved. Goldskullb (talk) 16:04, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I think we usually keep official statements, or comments on record made by devs and merely note the descrepencies, but I could be mistaken. PeterWind (talk) 16:46, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * imo we’re here to present facts first and foremost—in this case, the fact of what was stated. i don’t think it’s up to us to tell people how to interpret such things; we should trust that our readers are smart enough to look into sources and think for themselves. the page is clear enough that this was only a statement and that it’s not canon in current lore —Eithris (talk) 17:28, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * That paragraph is more informative about the development than about the lore, so it could be moved to the notes section I guess. --Ryon21 (talk) 17:48, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * To move it to the notes section sounds like an agreeable middle course. Goldskullb (talk) 19:07, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure! PeterWind (talk) 21:31, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I completely missed this conversation since you didn't ping me, but:
 * Like Eithris said, our job is to record the facts of what Blizzard have stated. Readers can then think for themselves based on that; it's not our job to cherry-pick which canon sources we should acknowledge. The section as written already clearly pointed out the contradiction between Ask CDev and Chronicle, so it should have been clear to anyone reading it that the statement had been invalidated by newer lore.
 * Either way, even if an official statement has seemingly been retconned, one should never just delete it from the wiki and pretend like it never happened. It should remain noted on the page for historical purposes, like Ryon ended up doing. -- 19:17, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Yep. One should always keep the information. --Ryon21 (talk) 21:22, 16 January 2020 (UTC)