AllianceA Vision of the Past
Start Thoralius the Wise [42.9, 65.0]
End Marshal Gryan Stoutmantle [56.4, 49.5]
Level 5-30
Category Westfall
Experience 1050
Reputation +250 Stormwind
Rewards 7s
Previous A [5-30] Secrets Revealed
Next A [5-30] Rise of the Brotherhood


Enter the Defias Hideout and follow the trail of homeless to the Deadmines dungeon. Enter the Deadmines dungeon and use the Incense Burner to see into the past.

  • Vision of the Past uncovered

Provided item:  [Incense Burner]


This incense will put your body and mind in a deep meditative state. Once the trance begins you will be pulled into the spirit world. Do not fight the trance once it has begun, <name>. Allow the spirits to show you what they know.

You must leave now. Go to the Deadmines, a place which I am told holds great significance in the history of Westfall. Once inside, use the incense.

You may enter the Deadmines through the old farmhouse south of here. Follow the homeless.

Return to Gryan with your discovery.


You will receive: 7s


What have you found out, <name>?


WHAT? VanCleef had a daughter?


VanCleef's death

His daughter

Before going down to the entrance of the Deadmines, you may want to go back to Sentinel Hill and set your  [Hearthstone] there, so that you can hearth there instead of running all the way back out to Moonbrook.

Follow the trail of homeless to the Deadmines dungeon entrance.

Enter the instance (you may need to set dungeon difficulty to Normal on a high-level character) and use the incense burner right where you appear in the instance, next to the portal.

The Vision of the Past shows what happened five years in the past. As the vision pans around Ironclad Cove, showing everyone dead, it circles around the ship to VanCleef's area...

Five years ago, in the heart of the Deadmines...
Alliance Warrior yells: There's nowhere left to hide, VanCleef! The Defias are THROUGH!
Alliance Warrior yells: We're here to finish this! Face us, coward!
Edwin VanCleef yells: None may challenge the Brotherhood!
Defias Blackguard jumps out of the shadows!
Defias Blackguard jumps out of the shadows!
At 75%
Edwin VanCleef yells: Lapdogs, all of you!
At 50%
Edwin VanCleef calls more of his allies out of the shadows.
At 25%
Edwin VanCleef yells: Fools! Our cause is righteous!
At 10%
Edwin VanCleef yells: The Brotherhood shall prevail!
The party finishes VanCleef off.
Alliance Warrior yells: Victory for the Alliance! Glory to Stormwind!
Alliance Warrior says: Let us return to Sentinel Hill, allies, and inform Gryan of VanCleef's demise!
The Alliance party jumps off the ship heading toward the exit... However, a surprise comes walking out of VanCleef's room... as a little girl steps out, crying as she reaches VanCleef.
Vanessa VanCleef says: Daddy...

Gryan's reaction should be echoed pretty much everywhere...


The party of five Alliance adventurers is a reference to the original, pre-Cataclysm Deadmines dungeon, where Edwin VanCleef was the final boss. The intent of the developers was to replicate the appearance of a Deadmines dungeon run in vanilla WoW, complete with a full party of five "players", and the hunter using mana rather than focus, as hunters did before Cataclysm.

However, some anachronisms are seen in the encounter: the rogue uses [Shadowstep], which was only added in patch 2.0.3 (and at level 60, at that), and the party wears capital city tabards ( [Stormwind Tabard] and so on) that were only added with the Argent Tournament in patch 3.1.0, and the earliest point they could possibly be wearing these tabards at level 17 is patch 4.0.3a (when they were added to capital city vendors; however, that was also the patch that removed the original Deadmines dungeon and added this very quest).


Optional breadcrumbs: A [5-30] Furlbrow's Deed, A [5-30] Hero's Call: Westfall!

  1. A [5-30] Murder Was The Case That They Gave Me
  2. A [5-30] Hot On the Trail: The Riverpaw Clan / A [5-30] Hot On the Trail: Murlocs
    1. N [5-30] Captain Sanders' Hidden Treasure
    2. N [5-30] Captain Sanders' Hidden Treasure
    3. N [5-30] Captain Sanders' Hidden Treasure
    4. N [5-30] Captain Sanders' Hidden Treasure
  3. A [5-30] Meet Two-Shoed Lou
  4. A [5-30] Livin' the Life
  5. A [5-30] Lou's Parting Thoughts
  6. A [5-30] Shakedown at the Saldean's
  7. A [5-30] Times are Tough / A [5-30] Westfall Stew
  8. A [5-30] You Have Our Thanks
  9. A [5-30] Hope for the People
  10. A [5-30] Feeding the Hungry and the Hopeless / A [5-30] In Defense of Westfall
  11. A [5-30] Find Agent Kearnen
  12. A [5-30] Secrets of the Tower
  13. A [5-30] Big Trouble in Moonbrook
  14. A [5-30] To Moonbrook!
  15. A [5-30] Propaganda
  16. A [5-30] The Dawning of a New Day
  17. A [5-30] Secrets Revealed
  18. A [5-30] A Vision of the Past
  19. A [5-30] Rise of the Brotherhood
  20. A [5-30] Return to Sentinel Hill
  21. A [5-30] Threat to the Kingdom

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