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I'm working on Enchanting formulas for BfA and I'm banging my head on how to treat different ranks. Here are two examples: Spell holy greaterheal.png [Seal of Critical Strike] and Spell holy greaterheal.png [Seal of Haste]. The first uses a ton of {{Cv}} and the second just breaks it out into different sections. I can't figure out how to make this look good and be easy to create/update. Also the infobox gets borked for the other ranks. The layout is a bigger problem with the ton of other ranked recipes for other professions. -- IconSmall Wildkin.gif Alianin T C 22:29, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

There's always the possibility of creating different pages for them but I doubt this is the optimal way. I'm not very good with templates and layouts so I'm not sure I can help :( Xporc (talk) 07:57, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
I'm inclined to say just make the pages with Rank 1 and then include a section in the page with the reduced mats rather than trying to incorporate it into the tooltip. At the very least it's a temporary solution until/unless we figure out something better. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 20:20, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
my vote goes for the first example. personally, i like the way tabs look--they're nice and neat and make it easy as a reader to parse the info presented. but, on the other hand, such heavy use of version templates does make things harder for the average user to edit... it's a predicament
also maybe we could have someone who's really good at templates take a look at why the box is acting funny on alternate tabs? i know it works fine on quests and items, so maybe something in {{Enchant}} just isn't playing nice with {{Cv}} --Eithris (talk) 00:26, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Typical. Why did I choose to be afk for over the last fortnight! For the other professions I added a rank column to the main page that listed all the formula but (had the downside of listing some item 3 times, but did mean searching by skill level was easier). The produced item pages went for the simplified format (ie Seal of Haste page), but without ranks-CVs. The ultimate enchant is the same no mater which rank is used. The only concession to rank made was to include multiple reagent itemboxs. concerned. Of course, enchants are a big different since there no such item called Seal of Haste. That is why I was leaving them until last and was very happy someone else started adding them.Dobablo (talk) 11:51, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
What if we created a template similar to {{Faction disambiguation}} for ranks and then created pages like Seal of Haste (Rank 3) or Pattern: Deep Sea Bag (Rank 2). Aliok brought up an issue that you can't link to specific recipes as drops or vendor items if they are all on a single page. -- IconSmall Wildkin.gif Alianin T C 21:43, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
Templates might be good, although of limited use. Very few BfA recipe items have multiple ranks (eg. Deep Sea Bag (Rank 2) is trainer taught. Only Rank 3 comes as an item). You can link to non base page recipes like Recipe: Honey-Glazed_Haunches#Rank_3 or have I misunderstood the Aliok-problem. Dobablo (talk) 07:17, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
It doesn't tooltip link that way, though, which is the issue. -- IconSmall Wildkin.gif Alianin T C 19:35, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Oh the tooltip. That makes sense now. So it's a request for two (or more) pages, ie Seal of Haste (Rank 2) and Seal of Haste (Rank 3), which get linked together by generic third page which uses a template to pull together all the sub pages into a single meta-page. Gottcha (I think). I only now learning how the half these templates such as Alliance/Horde version of mirrored quests worked. Dobablo (talk) 06:50, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
The use of {{cv}} on Seal of Critical Strike is not ideal: without javascript, parts of the page become silly (see e.g. the 12108x Inv enchanting 80 shadowdust.png [Gloom Dust] cost in the itembox).
I don't quite see the point of repeating the reagents in an {{itembox}} when they're already listed in the {{enchant}} tooltip, so I've removed those from Spell holy greaterheal.png [Seal of Haste]. The "can be made through" wording is a bit weird when used with ranks, and it's debatable whether we want to hide the source text for other ranks -- for now, I've made it only show one source at a time to check whether {{cv}} works as intended.
Linking to specific ranks should work now: Spell holy greaterheal.png [Seal of Haste]. — foxlit (talk) 04:02, 19 August 2018 (UTC)