Talk: Bruiser

Seeing how some bruisers from Vanilla redirected here, I wonder if this page was created as a helm page for those NPCs. If so, I think it should be moved to Bruiser. On the other hand, the term "Goblin Bruiser" appeared in the RPG right next to the Goblin Alchemist entry. The question here is whether we wanna stick with the RPG naming or in-game naming where it is <place> Bruiser instead of <place> Goblin Bruiser. Thoughts?

EDIT: On the third hand, Cycle of Hatred also mentions the term "goblin bruiser". So before checking this book a was inclined to agree with moving, but now I'm not so sure. --Mordecay (talk) 19:30, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Well there are ogre bruisers and hobgoblin bruisers. As I said elsewhere, the Footman page is simply called "Footman", not "Human Footman". Xporc (talk) 23:14, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Unlike "human footman", "goblin bruiser" seems to be name of the job as per Cycle of Hatred, but simply "bruiser" was also used there. Also, Goblin alchemist / Elven ranger are too specific to be merged with alchemist / ranger, yes? --Mordecay (talk) 00:02, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

I have not read Cycle of Hatred, but wasn't the term "goblin bruiser" merely used to describe goblins that were bruisers/bruisers that were goblins? I mean, there are now a lot of ogre and hobgoblin bruisers, and I would feel weird to call them "goblin bruisers"... "Elven ranger" is also long, specific and different enough from the normal "ranger" page to deserve its own one, same thing for "berserker" and "troll berserker". But I see no value in having a "goblin bruiser" page when there is no "Bruiser" page to begin with.

Plus as you said, not a single Bruiser is called "<Place> Goblin Bruiser" in game, only "<Place> Bruiser". For me it's enough to settle the debate. Xporc (talk) 11:09, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

CoH: "Muzzlecrank used to like being a goblin bruiser. Truly, it had been easy work when he first signed up. Bruisers enforced the peace in Ratchet, and the pay was good." --Mordecay (talk) 11:39, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Well there you go, the quote use both "goblin bruiser" and "bruiser". So I vote for "Bruiser". Xporc (talk) 11:49, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Post-move

Even tho the page was moved I think that "goblin bruiser" should at least be mentioned in a note section given the same concept was also worked with in the RPG? --Mordecay (talk) 12:38, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

In the RPG the "Goblin Bruiser" is just a generic, unnamed NPC, not a class of its own. But you're right, I undid my last change because they are also called that way in Cycle of Hatred in the end. Xporc (talk) 12:51, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Lul yea, u r right with it being NPC name. --Mordecay (talk) 13:19, 19 August 2017 (UTC)