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Ah ok so there is a Dark Iron Empire?  Rolandius Wc3Knight (talk - contr) 02:24, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, it has an Emperor, Emperor Dagran Thaurissan, so technically yes. I think "Dark Iron clan" is better though. Kirkburn  talk  contr 02:27, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Just because he is called an Emperor doesn't mean its an empire. Unless the term is used in lore, we're not going to use it. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 02:29, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Well then how come when I changed the word empire to tribe on the Dwarf page it was reverted?  Rolandius Wc3Knight (talk - contr) 02:36, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
They aren't tribes; if anything, they are clans. Kirkburn  talk  contr 02:38, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh I meant to change it to clan, but still not empire.  Rolandius Wc3Knight (talk - contr) 02:41, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

New Classes[]

Okay I can see the Mage class reaching the Dwarven's mindset but Shaman? I actually like the lore behind Tauren Paladin but a Dwarf Shaman, to me that seems ridiculous. Although while writing this I did just remember the fact that they are originally stone creations from the titans. So perhaps it has something to do with their actual origin which allows them to connect with the elements. This works for the aspects of fire and earth and to an extent lightning and 'nature'. However water and wind still seem like they need some explaining. Lost-Blue 21:58, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Believe it or not, we here at WoWWiki don't design the game, as such we can't explain their reasonings for the things they do. All complaints should be directed to the official World of Warcraft forums, not here. SnakeSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3For Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 22:16, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
I was hoping for more of 'conservative' fan debate, lol. Lost-Blue 22:40, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
I know I'm not exactly hitting iron while it's still hot (I got the dorf jokes), but dwarves in most any setting are the most versatile, especially in Warcraft. Obviously since '09 there's been a huge shift in lore, but the RPG books (which weren't at that point retconned) stated they had Elemantalists, Geomancers and Druids, so really the PC race is missing one class that it should have: Druids; as "Elementalists" and "Geomancers" are subcategories of Shaman. In regards to controlling the elements, how would wind and water need any explanation? Dwarves epitomize the aspects of the mountain, including the "north wind" and snowstorms. In a more tangible fashion, Wildhammers possess windwarriors who utilize lightning empowered Stormhammers. And if you can conceive of a dwarf mage, who would utilize frost, then a dwarf shaman using water is nothing extraordinary. However, a shaman doesn't manipulate the elements because they have some inherent connection to any of them, all living beings are capable of it. Any class not available to a race is a matter of cultural significance; feasibly, all races can achieve all classes, but we can only choose certain combos because we're beholden to the cultural norms. Myrthuil (talk) 20:15, 28 February 2017 (UTC)