Anyway to get an offical cite saying this isn't the same camp that Grom built during the Third War? A lot of locations from warcraft 3 got shifted around in wow, and geography isn't a reliable enough indicator to make the determination. If it was, we'd have to say that Orgrimmar isn't the same city being built in the frozen throne as that Orgrimmar was in the south of Durotar where as the current Orgrimmar is in the north. Without an offical cite, I'd say this whole article needs a rewrite.Tweak the Whacked (talk) 11:03, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
- This has to be part of the settlement that Grom Hellscream was asked to build. If you compare it to The Cry of the Warsong, you have the river that bisects the map, the two crossings, and Splinter Tree Post which is likely one of the original three camps from across the river and Saytrs to the north. Crioca (talk) 4:06, 15 March 2010 (UTC)